Mandaya Spearheads

tom hyle · 10th January 2011, 02:35 PM

Very nice & interesting. Can anyone elucidate the difference between Moro, Lumad, and Visayan spear blades? The more rounded of these two particularly resembles Moro blades? Are the unpanelled ones with rhomboid bolsters Visayan?

Sajen · 12th January 2011, 12:08 AM

Very nice spearheads.

Every time when I see these spearheads as well Moro spearheads I wonder how it's possible to fix them secure with it's short tang to this long shafts.

Regards,

Detlef

Maurice · 12th January 2011, 12:49 AM

I was watching those too.
Thank you for posting it with the image of the mandaya warrior.

I had seen the spearheads and also I have the image of the warrior on my computer. But I didn't connected them together so didn't notice those were the same spearheads as on the image.
Great to have a reference...

Maurice

David · 12th January 2011, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sajen

Every time when I see these spearheads as well Moro spearheads I wonder how it's possible to fix them secure with it's short tang to this long shafts.

Detlef, perhaps this thread will give you some ideas....
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=moro+spear

Sajen · 12th January 2011, 01:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David

Detlef, perhaps this thread will give you some ideas....
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...ght=moro+spear

Thank you, seems I have missed this thread!

Rick · 12th January 2011, 03:02 AM

Then we have the socketed variety of Mandaya spear head ....

These two have innumerable forged layers .

Battara · 12th January 2011, 03:49 AM

Thank you folks - truly rare finds indeed! (I thought of you Rick and your 2 pieces).

Well the Mandaya is one of the lumad tribes, with some others being like the Bagobo, T'boli, Manobo, etc.

One thing to notice is that most Mandaya spearheads have that trapazoidal tip and bottom with the "X"s in the middle. Moro spearheads (except the wavy ones) seem to taper with rounded bottoms and do not have "engraved" middle sections.

I only wish that they had the sockets like Rick's (or were on shafts). STill happy with these, however.

Rick · 12th January 2011, 04:16 PM

Yours are the only other ones i've seen with the 'flower' pattern in the panel, Jose .

You really don't see these very often; in 15 years I've only seen yours and Bill's .

I think with the Mandaya spear head the really distinguishing feature is the shape of the point .

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10th January 2011, 02:35 PM	#1
tom hyle Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Houston, TX, USA Posts: 1,254	Very nice & interesting. Can anyone elucidate the difference between Moro, Lumad, and Visayan spear blades? The more rounded of these two particularly resembles Moro blades? Are the unpanelled ones with rhomboid bolsters Visayan?

12th January 2011, 12:08 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,553	Very nice spearheads. Every time when I see these spearheads as well Moro spearheads I wonder how it's possible to fix them secure with it's short tang to this long shafts. Regards, Detlef

12th January 2011, 12:49 AM	#3
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,464	I was watching those too. Thank you for posting it with the image of the mandaya warrior. I had seen the spearheads and also I have the image of the warrior on my computer. But I didn't connected them together so didn't notice those were the same spearheads as on the image. Great to have a reference... Maurice

12th January 2011, 03:49 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,368	Thank you folks - truly rare finds indeed! (I thought of you Rick and your 2 pieces). Well the Mandaya is one of the lumad tribes, with some others being like the Bagobo, T'boli, Manobo, etc. One thing to notice is that most Mandaya spearheads have that trapazoidal tip and bottom with the "X"s in the middle. Moro spearheads (except the wavy ones) seem to taper with rounded bottoms and do not have "engraved" middle sections. I only wish that they had the sockets like Rick's (or were on shafts). STill happy with these, however.

12th January 2011, 04:16 PM	#8
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,387	Yours are the only other ones i've seen with the 'flower' pattern in the panel, Jose . You really don't see these very often; in 15 years I've only seen yours and Bill's . I think with the Mandaya spear head the really distinguishing feature is the shape of the point .