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A. G. Maisey · 12th December 2010, 02:00 AM

Everybody seems to be focussing on whether this is an old --- or "older" --- blade, or a recent blade.

Similarly there seems to be intense interest in the pamor.

Frankly, neither of these things grab my attention.

When a blade looks like this I simply cannot tell from a photo, especially a photo on a computer screen , if it has any age or not.

As for the pamor, this particular pamor is not uncommon in keris from a number of areas.

There are several things which do interest me:-

the gandik, the kembang kacang, the distance from the pesi to the sirah cecak, the form of the pesi, the form of the luk.

If I look at these things I do not see either Lombok or recent Madura.

I tend towards a classification of Madura pre WWII, but I am simply not prepared to give any firm opinion from photos.I doubt Lombok for a classification, but that is a hesitant doubt, it is not a firm statement.

As I have already said:- it is an interesting blade.

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12th December 2010, 02:00 AM	#16
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,047	Everybody seems to be focussing on whether this is an old --- or "older" --- blade, or a recent blade. Similarly there seems to be intense interest in the pamor. Frankly, neither of these things grab my attention. When a blade looks like this I simply cannot tell from a photo, especially a photo on a computer screen , if it has any age or not. As for the pamor, this particular pamor is not uncommon in keris from a number of areas. There are several things which do interest me:- the gandik, the kembang kacang, the distance from the pesi to the sirah cecak, the form of the pesi, the form of the luk. If I look at these things I do not see either Lombok or recent Madura. I tend towards a classification of Madura pre WWII, but I am simply not prepared to give any firm opinion from photos.I doubt Lombok for a classification, but that is a hesitant doubt, it is not a firm statement. As I have already said:- it is an interesting blade.