Kebo Lajer - dapur meaning?

A. G. Maisey · 2nd April 2010, 01:35 AM

Pak Ganja, may I draw your attention to my complete text:-

I feel that it is sometimes a case of something being relevant or understood at some point in the past, but being in the realm of complete nonsense NOW.

The way in which things are understood depends upon the use of language and social mores at any particular time.

The way in which a word, or a phrase, or even body language, may have been understood in any place at any time in the past is not necessarily the same as the way in which these things are understood at any other point in time, nor in any other place.

To apply this fact to the case in point:-

let us acknowledge that the names of the various dhapur did have some meaning, either open or esoteric at some point in time past; clearly if they did carry a meaning for some people at that point in time, they were not nonsense

the strict meaning of the word "nonsense", in the context in which I have used it is:-

"spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense"

to a very large degree the dhapur names of keris at the present point in time fall precisely within this definition:- they have no meaning and they make no sense, however, this is not to say that they did not have a meaning at some time in the past, nor that they made no sense at some time in the past.

All of the foregoing is implied by the three letter word "now" in my original post.

2nd April 2010, 01:35 AM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Pak Ganja, may I draw your attention to my complete text:- I feel that it is sometimes a case of something being relevant or understood at some point in the past, but being in the realm of complete nonsense NOW. The way in which things are understood depends upon the use of language and social mores at any particular time. The way in which a word, or a phrase, or even body language, may have been understood in any place at any time in the past is not necessarily the same as the way in which these things are understood at any other point in time, nor in any other place. To apply this fact to the case in point:- let us acknowledge that the names of the various dhapur did have some meaning, either open or esoteric at some point in time past; clearly if they did carry a meaning for some people at that point in time, they were not nonsense the strict meaning of the word "nonsense", in the context in which I have used it is:- "spoken or written words that have no meaning or make no sense" to a very large degree the dhapur names of keris at the present point in time fall precisely within this definition:- they have no meaning and they make no sense, however, this is not to say that they did not have a meaning at some time in the past, nor that they made no sense at some time in the past. All of the foregoing is implied by the three letter word "now" in my original post.