Some questions about Balinese hilt cup.

Gustav · Yesterday, 04:12 PM

Alan, thank you again!

I am sorry, but I don't believe the "Kekandikan" Wrongko from #6 and Wrongko #11 from my collection are made in Bali or Lombok, and in my opinion they are made in West Java or Pasisir. Why?

Both Gambar have a quite long neck. Such neck is absolutely atypical for a Balinese Gambar.

The front part (the Gandhik side, if Keris would be in Wrongko) is similar to Balinese Kekandikan, but also to older Pasisir forms, - the back part, the "axe", is completely different - it is concave and has an angle, which also is absolutely atypical for a Balinese/Lombok Kekandikan.

Attached pictures of Wrongko from #11 besides a regular Lombok Kekandikan, Gambar from #6 and #11, and a picture of Wrongko from #6 together with other Pasisir Keris from that collection.

Apparently this kind of Wrongko is made in West Java or Pasisir again, attached a recent example, and one, which is recent or refurbished older one.

Yesterday, 04:12 PM	#12
Gustav Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,294	Alan, thank you again! I am sorry, but I don't believe the "Kekandikan" Wrongko from #6 and Wrongko #11 from my collection are made in Bali or Lombok, and in my opinion they are made in West Java or Pasisir. Why? Both Gambar have a quite long neck. Such neck is absolutely atypical for a Balinese Gambar. The front part (the Gandhik side, if Keris would be in Wrongko) is similar to Balinese Kekandikan, but also to older Pasisir forms, - the back part, the "axe", is completely different - it is concave and has an angle, which also is absolutely atypical for a Balinese/Lombok Kekandikan. Attached pictures of Wrongko from #11 besides a regular Lombok Kekandikan, Gambar from #6 and #11, and a picture of Wrongko from #6 together with other Pasisir Keris from that collection. Apparently this kind of Wrongko is made in West Java or Pasisir again, attached a recent example, and one, which is recent or refurbished older one. Attached Images