Keris ligan

A. G. Maisey · 7th July 2021, 10:26 PM

Anthony, insofar as dhapur goes, Lalu Djelenga mentions dhapur in his "Keris Lombok" which was published in 1993 I think.

Balinese idea? Lombok idea? Jawa idea? I don't know, but at least thirty odd years back collectors in Lombok seem to have been aware of the concept. My guess is adaption of a Javanese standard. Javanese culture does tend to influence all Indonesian culture.

The Neka book mentions dhapur, but the text for that book was written by a Javanese gentleman and much of what is written tends to a Javanese perspective. In this book a comprehensive table of dhapur is provided, but the reference is Javanese, not Balinese, although common Balinese terms are supposedly used to name the ricikan, personally I have some doubts about this, the whole thing looks Javanese to me.

In conversation with the couple of Balinese pande I know dhapur has never seemed to come up in discussion. My personal opinion, and it is only opinion, is that the dhapur thing accompanied the rise of Mataram. A lot of keris lore is much more recent than most people would care to acknowledge.

Under questioning by an interviewer who asked how many types of keris there are, Pak Neka replied that there were three types:- straight, waved & keris pedang. Dhapur did not come into it. This was a filmed interview for, I think, TV viewing, I was present when that interview took place.

The term "keris pedang" is an alternate name for the ligan.

In respect of the workmanship, it is absolutely impossible for me to comment on that from photographs, even from very high quality, very hi-res images I would hesitate to comment.

I will say that to my eye the overall impression (pawakan) is one of stiffness and imbalance, it looks as if the maker was working at the edge of his ability. But I could be incorrect in this comment, it could just be the angle of the photo.

Did the sculptor of this keris also forge the bakalan?

7th July 2021, 10:26 PM	#4
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,989	Anthony, insofar as dhapur goes, Lalu Djelenga mentions dhapur in his "Keris Lombok" which was published in 1993 I think. Balinese idea? Lombok idea? Jawa idea? I don't know, but at least thirty odd years back collectors in Lombok seem to have been aware of the concept. My guess is adaption of a Javanese standard. Javanese culture does tend to influence all Indonesian culture. The Neka book mentions dhapur, but the text for that book was written by a Javanese gentleman and much of what is written tends to a Javanese perspective. In this book a comprehensive table of dhapur is provided, but the reference is Javanese, not Balinese, although common Balinese terms are supposedly used to name the ricikan, personally I have some doubts about this, the whole thing looks Javanese to me. In conversation with the couple of Balinese pande I know dhapur has never seemed to come up in discussion. My personal opinion, and it is only opinion, is that the dhapur thing accompanied the rise of Mataram. A lot of keris lore is much more recent than most people would care to acknowledge. Under questioning by an interviewer who asked how many types of keris there are, Pak Neka replied that there were three types:- straight, waved & keris pedang. Dhapur did not come into it. This was a filmed interview for, I think, TV viewing, I was present when that interview took place. The term "keris pedang" is an alternate name for the ligan. In respect of the workmanship, it is absolutely impossible for me to comment on that from photographs, even from very high quality, very hi-res images I would hesitate to comment. I will say that to my eye the overall impression (pawakan) is one of stiffness and imbalance, it looks as if the maker was working at the edge of his ability. But I could be incorrect in this comment, it could just be the angle of the photo. Did the sculptor of this keris also forge the bakalan?