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Old 25th December 2016, 05:38 PM   #34
kai
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Hello Alan,

Ok, I'll bite...


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It is a Tomris, Dhapur Ngapes.
To me this word looks like a marriage of tombak and keris. Possibly something you made up to please the name chasers? On the other hand, nobody asked for a name for this rare beast AFAIK.

I'm completely lost on the intended dhapur connotation though...


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"Tomris" is the Ngoko term, Krama is "Dhuwaos", and when worn in the wangkingan fashion it is referred to as a "Wangwaosan".
D(h)uwung + wa(h)os, and Wangkingan + wa(h)osan, I guess?

I haven't been able to come up with an explanation for changing wa(h)os into wa(h)osan though. BTW, are dagger-hilted (pusaka) tombak ever worn in the wangkingan fashion to really need a "formal" word - I believed this was a modern fad for easier storage only?


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It should be noted that the alternate spelling of "Tomris" is "Tumris"
Pretty much flogging a dead horse here, just to please the standard transliteration, as well as Bahasa Indonesia and Malay folks, I assume?

Regards,
Kai

Last edited by kai; 25th December 2016 at 05:44 PM. Reason: Correcting spell checker's errors...
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