ANOTHER KUBUR PISTOL

rickystl · 11th October 2015, 01:56 PM

Hi Rajesh.
I've been out of town for a week on business. First chance I've had to catch up here on the Forum.
Nice pistol. For me, this is a typical Ottoman horse pistol made at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. And made to replicate the early French style pistols, which seemed the most popular pattern to copy. While the lock could be Italian - made for export - I believe it is a locally made copy. One feature indicating this is the screw holding the frizzen to the pan arm is mounted INSIDE the lock versus outside via European style. The barrel engravings were usually done in a very generic fashion so as to appeal to a wide range of prospective customers. The bone inlays at the wrist are interesting, and may indicate a Moroccan or Tunisian influence as Kubur mentioned. Most of these wrist inlays are metal (brass, iron, white metal) and sometimes have a jewel or semi-precious stone. So the bone inlays are very neat, and less common on these pistols. And the white metal inlay on the barrel seems to be mostly all there. Again, nice example.

As others mention above, the likely shipping problem is the U.K. I've had only one gun shipped from the U.K. to the USA a 3-4 yers ago. And I learned the hard way similar to your situation. There are only about 3-4 shippers in the U.K. that are "licensed" to ship ANTIQUE, muzzle loading guns. (not replicas). Even though muzzle loading guns (antique or replica) are not even regulated in the USA, I still had to fill out a bunch of paperwork and collect the gun at my airport customs office. And they rape you on the fees and shipping costs. So beware.

Rick.

11th October 2015, 01:56 PM	#8
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Rajesh. I've been out of town for a week on business. First chance I've had to catch up here on the Forum. Nice pistol. For me, this is a typical Ottoman horse pistol made at one of the many gun making centers in the Balkans. And made to replicate the early French style pistols, which seemed the most popular pattern to copy. While the lock could be Italian - made for export - I believe it is a locally made copy. One feature indicating this is the screw holding the frizzen to the pan arm is mounted INSIDE the lock versus outside via European style. The barrel engravings were usually done in a very generic fashion so as to appeal to a wide range of prospective customers. The bone inlays at the wrist are interesting, and may indicate a Moroccan or Tunisian influence as Kubur mentioned. Most of these wrist inlays are metal (brass, iron, white metal) and sometimes have a jewel or semi-precious stone. So the bone inlays are very neat, and less common on these pistols. And the white metal inlay on the barrel seems to be mostly all there. Again, nice example. As others mention above, the likely shipping problem is the U.K. I've had only one gun shipped from the U.K. to the USA a 3-4 yers ago. And I learned the hard way similar to your situation. There are only about 3-4 shippers in the U.K. that are "licensed" to ship ANTIQUE, muzzle loading guns. (not replicas). Even though muzzle loading guns (antique or replica) are not even regulated in the USA, I still had to fill out a bunch of paperwork and collect the gun at my airport customs office. And they rape you on the fees and shipping costs. So beware. Rick.