Unknown pamor

[Jean]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

Sorry, I cannot name this pamor.

Since my earlier post I have spent a lot of time looking at the images, and my reference material.

The images do not tell me how this pamor material was manipulated, which I would need to know to have some chance of naming it.

On first impression it looks like a double twist welded side by side and with indentation,or perhaps with an additional "lawe setukal" bend process added in, but used in a different orientation, but when you look at the grain flow it seems as if it could be patches of material placed together.

The only way I could be certain about what I was looking at would be by physical examination using magnification. Without this facility I cannot give an opinion.
However, if somebody threatened to stick hot needles under my fingernails in the absence of an answer, I'd call it a dadung muntir variation.

Dear Alan,
Thank you very much for your thorough investigation of the pamor of this blade (very difficult from pictures only as you say).
Regarding the origin of the blade, it was found in Solo and fitted into a ladrang sheath from Solo (see picture). However the blade could well originate from elsewhere as you said and this may partly explain the difficulty for classifying this pamor. I am personally confident that this is not a recently made replica blade but I could be wrong of course.
Regarding the 3 different opinions received about the pamor style:
. The experienced seller and his expert friends from Solo could not recognize the pamor, however one of them identified it as pamor Kendhi Gumanthung (hanging jars). I only found one reference about this pamor in the Pamoratlas from Emile Van Veenendaal, but it appears as a pamor motif and not a full pamor as this one.
. Emile himself classified it as Lar Gangsir Kasar
. A well-know kris expert from Surabaya (and member of this forum) identified it as Rambut Daradah.
What do you think?

By the way no member of this forum would think of torturing you (except with nasty questions), we need you to much!
Best regards
Jean