No SLOROK / WOJO for keris sepuh??? Really???

A. G. Maisey · 29th August 2010, 01:08 PM

Neo, there is no need for you to find other photos to illustrate your point. I was interested in seeing the complete keris that was made of the material shown in your photo and that was claimed to be Majapahit.

Were I you, I would not concern myself much about not having obtained it.

Tangguh is an opinion.

It is an opinion of a classification that can be applied to a blade.

Keris that are classified as Majapahit normally do have a core (slorok)

Keris that are classified into the eras that fall prior to Majapahit also will usually have a core.

However some keris which truly date from the actual time period prior to Majapahit will most often not have a core, however, these keris will not be classified as Jenggolo or whatever, but as Buda.

There are at least two ways of accepting the tangguh system:- you can accept it as a classification system that uses the names of Javanese eras and historical periods as the names of those classifications, or you can accept that the classifications truly relate to the era or historical period. In the first instance you are subscribing to belief in a system of classification, in the second instance you are subscribing to an element that is part of a system of belief.

One acceptance is not more correct than the other, the relevance of the acceptance depends upon your state of mind.

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29th August 2010, 01:08 PM	#5
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,992	Neo, there is no need for you to find other photos to illustrate your point. I was interested in seeing the complete keris that was made of the material shown in your photo and that was claimed to be Majapahit. Were I you, I would not concern myself much about not having obtained it. Tangguh is an opinion. It is an opinion of a classification that can be applied to a blade. Keris that are classified as Majapahit normally do have a core (slorok) Keris that are classified into the eras that fall prior to Majapahit also will usually have a core. However some keris which truly date from the actual time period prior to Majapahit will most often not have a core, however, these keris will not be classified as Jenggolo or whatever, but as Buda. There are at least two ways of accepting the tangguh system:- you can accept it as a classification system that uses the names of Javanese eras and historical periods as the names of those classifications, or you can accept that the classifications truly relate to the era or historical period. In the first instance you are subscribing to belief in a system of classification, in the second instance you are subscribing to an element that is part of a system of belief. One acceptance is not more correct than the other, the relevance of the acceptance depends upon your state of mind.