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Old 26th July 2009, 02:13 AM   #1
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Re your gaucho knife marked AE&Co Inox:

I did a search in Spanish and Portuguese and found this entry, in which AE&Co is equated with Abramo EBERLE e Companhia at http://brasil.abatata.com.br/cva/595..._Em_Prata.html

As well, I found numerous Brazilian sales of belt buckles and knives under AE&Co. http://www.coiote.net/categoria_fivelas_32286_1.html


Then there is this listing under Wikipedia, in Portuguese, which can be translated by Google, http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abramo_Eberle. This company is listed as an old manufacturer of sundry metallic products, knives, dress accessories etc and located in Brazil.


I think that this may be the answer.

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Old 26th July 2009, 02:19 AM   #2
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Hi Chris,

Thanks so much for your patience and time in looking into this. It certainly does read as if you have resolved my query regarding these.

Thanks very much
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Old 26th July 2009, 02:57 AM   #3
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Hi Hotspur,

I also looked in Domenech's Dagas de Plata, which deals mostly with older gaucho knives and he lists on pg263, under 'brand' Eberle, under `importer' Abramo and under `origin/manufacturer' Brazil, so that, I think, pretty much nails it down.

Of course, the blade or even the whole knife could have been made by various sub-contractors on order by AE&Co, though that we'll probably never know. But... As far as the blade is concerned my mind immediately went to Mundial, a major Brazilian manufacturer of stainless steel knives. The reason I mention this is because there wouldn't be that many manufacturers there with the specialized facilities to make stainless blades as well as other items such as belt buckles, though this is only a guess on my part. In support of this view, I found one early AE&Co gaucho knife, fitted with the famous `Corneta' (Weyesberg) brand blade, so the firm did out-source blades in the past: http://brasil.abatata.com.br/lista_historicas/456429

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Hi Hotspur,

I also looked in Domenech's Dagas de Plata, which deals mostly with older gaucho knives and he lists on pg263, under 'brand' Eberle, under `importer' Abramo and under `origin/manufacturer' Brazil, so that, I think, pretty much nails it down.

Of course, the blade or even the whole knife could have been made by various sub-contractors on order by AE&Co, though that we'll probably never know. But... As far as the blade is concerned my mind immediately went to Mundial, a major Brazilian manufacturer of stainless steel knives. The reason I mention this is because there wouldn't be that many manufacturers there with the specialized facilities to make stainless blades as well as other items such as belt buckles, though this is only a guess on my part. In support of this view, I found one early AE&Co gaucho knife, fitted with the famous `Corneta' (Weyesberg) brand blade, so the firm did out-source blades in the past: http://brasil.abatata.com.br/lista_historicas/456429

Cheers
Chris
Yes, Mundial. In some brief searches with the name, I came across English bios and a fair bit about the timelines and merger with another knife maker. I also chanced across a modern made Eberle/Mundial knife of this type that has been modernized a bit with a little less flair and detail I find on these older versions. As Abramo passed and his family carried on in 1945, the trick is nnow to look at the trademark changes. Here is that offering in today's context.

http://www.thedazzledames.com/gift3.html

Also attached here are my lone example and the other I had come across and archived in my pictures.

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Hotspur; the older ones do turn up at the drop of a hat and at some unexpected antique dealers
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Old 26th July 2009, 04:06 AM   #5
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Hi Hotspur,

Good work - Well, then the puzzle has been solved.

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