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Old 9th September 2008, 02:39 PM   #1
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Hi
I would like to have some information about this blade. Could any of you give me some idea as to possible age, origin, is it a weapon or a heavy duty tool…a fake….or authentic?, etc
Could this be from borneo?
Malay?

I would appreciate any comments or information you may have.
Thanks in advance for any comments.
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Old 9th September 2008, 08:18 PM   #2
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Well, I'm a bit nervous about treading into other peoples territory here, but I believe thats a Malayan 'Parang'. I believe thats a generic Malay word covering a wide range of knives, but I'm sure the experts in that area will be able to give you an exact description of your knife.

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Old 9th September 2008, 10:57 PM   #3
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Boa tarde, Blacklacrau. I´m sorry for not beign capable of helping. This kind weapons are not my best area of knowledge. I just wanted to ask you the measures of your piece. It seems tha the blade thickness is about 5-6mm on the back at the base, isn´t it? From which material is made the woven ring on the hilt? Thank you very much.
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Old 10th September 2008, 12:40 AM   #4
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Hi
The all piece is 46,5 cm long;
the blade 34 cm;
blade thickness on the back at the base 6 mm;
the woven ring of the hilt is made of ratan.

Many thank´s.

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Old 10th September 2008, 03:26 AM   #5
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A golok, or perhaps a smallish Bangkung ?
The pommel looks S. Philippines .
The forging is kind of 'down home' ; rough in other words .
This crudeness is not often (IMO) seen in Moro work .

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Old 10th September 2008, 03:59 AM   #6
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looks a lot like a Mexican machete blade, cuchillo de costa, 20th c. the hilt seems Filipino.
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Old 10th September 2008, 08:43 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by Jim McDougall
looks a lot like a Mexican machete blade, cuchillo de costa, 20th c. the hilt seems Filipino.
The machete costeño is never as thick, and the hump or hunch goes much forward, as the blade is big (long).

Blacklacrau, thank you very much for your kind attention.
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Old 10th September 2008, 11:20 AM   #8
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The beauty of a crudeness but useful tool... I Like it
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Old 10th September 2008, 01:16 PM   #9
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As Rick said the pommel looks Phillippine. But, these quality of forged blades show up lately more and more as Dayak choppers on ebay and local auction sites. Among them parang sadap like choppers with very new scabbard and pommel.
I think it is more ment as a tool and as Rick noticed very rough forged.
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Old 10th September 2008, 05:56 PM   #10
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I'd say dayak parang. I've got a real similar one, same rough forged blade. It has clear laminations too, I'll see about some pics.
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Old 10th September 2008, 06:06 PM   #11
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Small Bangkung ??
http://www.arscives.com/historysteel.../180-iag26.jpg
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Old 11th September 2008, 11:57 PM   #12
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The design of the tip of the blade seems to be...similar to a mandau or parang dayak??
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Old 12th September 2008, 05:29 AM   #13
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here is a similar piece
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