3 Interesting Parang Naburs

CharlesS · 29th March 2008, 01:32 AM

The 'parang nabur', or more correctly identified by one of our fellow forumites, VVV, the 'beladah Belabang', used by the Malays on the Malay pennisula and SE Borneo is one of my favorite ethnographic sword forms....witness my avatar!

Here are three unique examples with varied blades and hilts.

1. This example is a monster, and the of the greatest overall quality of the three, with a massive blade that reminds one of a kilij blade, only much heavier. The fullering here is superb, near flawless, and the chieselling to the blade's spine is both unique and finely done. The hilt is pierced brass. The scabbard is quite unique for these.

2. This example has a unique blade, almost straight, swelling to a 'bolo' form with well executed fullers, a quality hilt, and scabbard of more typical form.

3. This example is considerably smaller then the others. It's blade has some of the characteristics of a Dayak 'jimpul'. The hilt is nicelyy done, and, again, the scabbard is of a more typical form.

katana · 29th March 2008, 01:46 AM

Not my area....but they are fantastic

Regards David

ariel · 29th March 2008, 02:03 AM

I happen to like Naburs a lot. Indonesian weapons are not my area of interest, but these babies managed to add just enough European influence to convert them into almost Middle Eastern weapons. Highly functional, comfortable to use and supremely elegant. Each one on the 3 shown here is beautiful. but the "monster" one gets my vote. Would be delighted to adopt this beauty.

Ferguson · 29th March 2008, 10:05 AM

Oh my. Gorgeous.
Steve

Maurice · 29th March 2008, 01:32 PM

Hi Charles,

Thanks for the pics of these fantastic naburs.
I like the second the most (the one with the more straight blade).
Very nice pieces....(I wonder how many you have now..)

Regards,
Maurice

VVV · 29th March 2008, 02:59 PM

Great taste as always Charles!

The first BB looks very (!) old to me, both the brass hilt and the compact blade. Its scabbard is a puzzle?
The second one is one of a kind, maybe it's a hybride of a Beladah Belabang (hilt and blade features) and a twist of a Pedang Jenawi (straight blade)?
On the third one I don't think it's influenced by a Jimpul. Maybe a Sumatran Pedang however?

Michael

CharlesS · 29th March 2008, 05:15 PM

Thanks guys.

Michael, I agree, I think #1 is quite old. If differs radically in hilt style and blade style, and I think also in blade quality. The scabbard is truly odd, but very functional. It is clearly an "all business" example.

spiral · 29th March 2008, 07:09 PM

Lovely pieces! Thankyou!

Spiral

Dajak · 29th March 2008, 11:02 PM

Hi Charles very nice

I see the straight one has an nice scabbard

Ben

HangPC2 · 1st April 2008, 05:23 PM

Parang Nabur or Pedang ?

Location : Kuala Selangor Historical Museum , Bukit Melawati , Selangor (Malaysia)

asomotif · 1st April 2008, 05:28 PM

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I see the straight one has an nice scabbard

Yep, I notice it too, where does the scabbard come from ?

VVV · 1st April 2008, 06:00 PM

[QUOTE=HangPC2]Parang Nabur or Pedang ?

Hang,

It's hard to see on the dark pictures.
But the last picture, based on what I can see, the curved is probably either a Malay Pedang or a Batak Piso Podang.
The straight one is also known as a Chenangkas.
On the first picture I can only see a couple of Pedang, as well as other swords.
And no "Parang Nabur".
If you make the pictures lighter and larger maybe we can tell for sure based on the details.

Michael

CharlesS · 1st April 2008, 06:11 PM

The scabbard for the straight blade nabur is newly made to typical nabur specifications. The maker did a wonderful, flawless, job. He used other nabur scabbards as models.

asomotif · 2nd April 2008, 11:27 AM

Wonderfull scabbard indeed.

It is just because I know this parang that I noticed.(is it not in a certain book

)

Best regards,
Willem

ferrylaki · 3rd April 2008, 05:17 AM

Wow.....
Beautiful ... never had a chance to hold some thing like this.
Not yet....

HangPC2 · 3rd April 2008, 06:47 AM

[QUOTE=VVV]

Quote:

Originally Posted by HangPC2

Parang Nabur or Pedang ?

Hang,

It's hard to see on the dark pictures.
But the last picture, based on what I can see, the curved is probably either a Malay Pedang or a Batak Piso Podang.
The straight one is also known as a Chenangkas.
On the first picture I can only see a couple of Pedang, as well as other swords.
And no "Parang Nabur".
If you make the pictures lighter and larger maybe we can tell for sure based on the details.

Michael

VVV · 3rd April 2008, 07:17 AM

On the first picture it looks like a Murut Pakayun (Sabah) and to the right of it European (or made in European style) swords?

Michael

asomotif · 3rd April 2008, 01:14 PM

The one on the right looks like a typical Tjikeroeh / Cikeru sword from Java.

Made in european style and often with name and date in the blade.

HangPC2 · 3rd April 2008, 04:57 PM

Off Topic

Malay , Java, Bugis and Dutch Weapon ?

Bukit Melawati (Fort Altingberg) History

http://sejarahmalaysia.pnm.my/portal...=357&ttl_id=51

Keris Jawa

Keris Sundang

Tombak Bugis

Dutch Matchlock Pistol

Bugis Chain Mail (Baju Zirah Bugis) & Bugis Shield (Perisai Bugis)

Mayo · 7th April 2008, 06:55 PM

[QUOTE=HangPC2]

Quote:

Originally Posted by VVV

Japanese Sword ?

Mayo · 7th April 2008, 06:57 PM

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Double Post

HangPC2 · 29th May 2008, 10:18 AM

[QUOTE=Mayo]

Quote:

Originally Posted by HangPC2

Japanese Sword ?

May Be?

kronckew · 29th May 2008, 12:30 PM

if you lighten the picture, (i used irfanview on auto-adjust) the circled one does look like the typical japanese sword form. the area in question was in the trading area of japan, and i believe some of the ruling classes were impressed with their swords and made local copies, though not in the same way the japanese did.

asomotif · 29th May 2008, 12:49 PM

Quote:

the area in question was in the trading area of japan, and i believe some of the ruling classes were impressed with their swords and made local copies, though not in the same way the japanese did.
Today 08:18 AM

Imho not only the trading area.
during WW 2 Japan occupied most of South east asia. In Indonesia they made there own local militairy katana's for NCO's.
And after the japanese were defeated and Indonesia fought for independency the TNI / Tentara Nasional Indonesia ,was also equipped with these home made katana's. (and any other weaponry they could lay there hands on)

As there is also a javanese 'tjikeroeh' sword in this display, the katana might well also be javanese or indonesian.

Best regards,
Willem

Valjhun · 2nd June 2008, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ariel

I happen to like Naburs a lot. Indonesian weapons are not my area of interest, but these babies managed to add just enough European influence to convert them into almost Middle Eastern weapons. Highly functional, comfortable to use and supremely elegant. Each one on the 3 shown here is beautiful. but the "monster" one gets my vote. Would be delighted to adopt this beauty.

I perfectly agree. I just must have one.

1st April 2008, 06:00 PM	#12
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Added info [QUOTE=HangPC2]Parang Nabur or Pedang ? Hang, It's hard to see on the dark pictures. But the last picture, based on what I can see, the curved is probably either a Malay Pedang or a Batak Piso Podang. The straight one is also known as a Chenangkas. On the first picture I can only see a couple of Pedang, as well as other swords. And no "Parang Nabur". If you make the pictures lighter and larger maybe we can tell for sure based on the details. Michael Last edited by VVV; 1st April 2008 at 06:37 PM.

3rd April 2008, 05:17 AM	#15
ferrylaki Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 285	parang nabur... Wow..... Beautiful ... never had a chance to hold some thing like this. Not yet....

3rd April 2008, 04:57 PM	#19
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 64	Off Topic Malay , Java, Bugis and Dutch Weapon ? Bukit Melawati (Fort Altingberg) History http://sejarahmalaysia.pnm.my/portal...=357&ttl_id=51 Keris Jawa Keris Sundang Tombak Bugis Dutch Matchlock Pistol Bugis Chain Mail (Baju Zirah Bugis) & Bugis Shield (Perisai Bugis) Last edited by HangPC2; 4th April 2008 at 10:34 AM.

7th April 2008, 06:57 PM	#21
Mayo Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 2	- Edit - Double Post Last edited by Mayo; 8th April 2008 at 05:24 AM.

29th May 2008, 12:30 PM	#23
kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,184	if you lighten the picture, (i used irfanview on auto-adjust) the circled one does look like the typical japanese sword form. the area in question was in the trading area of japan, and i believe some of the ruling classes were impressed with their swords and made local copies, though not in the same way the japanese did. Attached Images

29th March 2008, 01:32 AM	#1
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	3 Interesting Parang Naburs The 'parang nabur', or more correctly identified by one of our fellow forumites, VVV, the 'beladah Belabang', used by the Malays on the Malay pennisula and SE Borneo is one of my favorite ethnographic sword forms....witness my avatar! Here are three unique examples with varied blades and hilts. 1. This example is a monster, and the of the greatest overall quality of the three, with a massive blade that reminds one of a kilij blade, only much heavier. The fullering here is superb, near flawless, and the chieselling to the blade's spine is both unique and finely done. The hilt is pierced brass. The scabbard is quite unique for these. 2. This example has a unique blade, almost straight, swelling to a 'bolo' form with well executed fullers, a quality hilt, and scabbard of more typical form. 3. This example is considerably smaller then the others. It's blade has some of the characteristics of a Dayak 'jimpul'. The hilt is nicelyy done, and, again, the scabbard is of a more typical form. Attached Images Last edited by CharlesS; 29th March 2008 at 03:27 AM.

29th March 2008, 01:46 AM	#2
katana Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Kent Posts: 2,653	Not my area....but they are fantastic Regards David

29th March 2008, 02:03 AM	#3
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	I happen to like Naburs a lot. Indonesian weapons are not my area of interest, but these babies managed to add just enough European influence to convert them into almost Middle Eastern weapons. Highly functional, comfortable to use and supremely elegant. Each one on the 3 shown here is beautiful. but the "monster" one gets my vote. Would be delighted to adopt this beauty.

29th March 2008, 10:05 AM	#4
Ferguson Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Kernersville, NC, USA Posts: 793	Oh my. Gorgeous. Steve

29th March 2008, 01:32 PM	#5
Maurice Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,346	Hi Charles, Thanks for the pics of these fantastic naburs. I like the second the most (the one with the more straight blade). Very nice pieces....(I wonder how many you have now..) Regards, Maurice

29th March 2008, 02:59 PM	#6
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	Great taste as always Charles! The first BB looks very (!) old to me, both the brass hilt and the compact blade. Its scabbard is a puzzle? The second one is one of a kind, maybe it's a hybride of a Beladah Belabang (hilt and blade features) and a twist of a Pedang Jenawi (straight blade)? On the third one I don't think it's influenced by a Jimpul. Maybe a Sumatran Pedang however? Michael

29th March 2008, 05:15 PM	#7
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	Thanks guys. Michael, I agree, I think #1 is quite old. If differs radically in hilt style and blade style, and I think also in blade quality. The scabbard is truly odd, but very functional. It is clearly an "all business" example.

29th March 2008, 07:09 PM	#8
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Lovely pieces! Thankyou! Spiral

29th March 2008, 11:02 PM	#9
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	Hi Charles very nice I see the straight one has an nice scabbard Ben

1st April 2008, 05:23 PM	#10
HangPC2 Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 64	Parang Nabur or Pedang ? Location : Kuala Selangor Historical Museum , Bukit Melawati , Selangor (Malaysia)

1st April 2008, 06:11 PM	#13
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,857	The scabbard for the straight blade nabur is newly made to typical nabur specifications. The maker did a wonderful, flawless, job. He used other nabur scabbards as models.

2nd April 2008, 11:27 AM	#14
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	Wonderfull scabbard indeed. It is just because I know this parang that I noticed.(is it not in a certain book ) Best regards, Willem

3rd April 2008, 07:17 AM	#17
VVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 1,637	On the first picture it looks like a Murut Pakayun (Sabah) and to the right of it European (or made in European style) swords? Michael

3rd April 2008, 01:14 PM	#18
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,225	The one on the right looks like a typical Tjikeroeh / Cikeru sword from Java. Made in european style and often with name and date in the blade.