TOURIST EDGED WEAPOND AND FAKES

carlos · 15th March 2007, 01:20 AM

RECIENTLY I HAVE BOUGHT A TOURIST NIAS SWORD, BUT I´M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT.
I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM , I KNOW HOW IS IT THE REAL SWORDS, BUT SOMETIMES LOOK FOR PICTURES WITH TOURIST ITEMS TO IDENTIFY THEM. IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD PUT THE PICTURES OF ETHNOGRAPHIC EDGED WEAPONS MADE FOR THE TOURIST MARKET ( MANDAUS, BALATOS, KRIS, KAMPILAN..)?
THANKS!!
CARLOS

Bill M · 15th March 2007, 03:15 AM

Interesting idea, Carlos.

Here is a Chinese Han dynasty battle sword. Bought from an established dealer as a fake.

Bill M · 15th March 2007, 03:17 AM

And a Chinese / Tibetan helmet. This helmet is so well done that an expert thought it might be real until he picked it up. If real, it would have been worth about 150 times what I paid.

I will post some more later that I bought early on, thinking they were real.

Battara · 15th March 2007, 11:42 PM

W W!

That's a good fake helmet!

carlos · 20th March 2007, 08:01 PM

TODAY HAS ARRIVED THE BALATO AND I HAVE UNDERSTAND WHY THE SELLER DON´T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE LENGHT...IS ONLY 13 INCH!!

Tim Simmons · 20th March 2007, 08:21 PM

No need to boast

Dajak · 20th March 2007, 10:05 PM

13 inch better than 8 inch

Ben

Bill M · 21st March 2007, 01:50 AM

Carlos,

There are several things to consider.

First, Nias is often faked because it is a unique and exotic culture, weapons, jewelry, statues.

Second, good quality, but not truly authentic weapons are mostly going to be mid to late 20th c and will cost in the $1,000+ USD range. Authentic pieces from the headhunting days will be MUCH higher and are very, very rare.

If you want to learn, spend some time on this forum. Use the "search" feature. Get to know some good dealers. Buy some books. Here is a good one on Nias.

http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=290092374953

Check around, you might find it cheaper.

carlos · 5th April 2007, 08:52 PM

Philippines dagger?

Battara · 5th April 2007, 11:15 PM

Well, I don't know about fake, but how about "recently made". Some more recent ones have eagles on them and are made of this type of later leather sheaths like this (earlier ones don't).

15th March 2007, 01:20 AM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	TOURIST EDGED WEAPOND AND FAKES RECIENTLY I HAVE BOUGHT A TOURIST NIAS SWORD, BUT I´M NOT WORRIED ABOUT IT. I HAVE A LITTLE PROBLEM , I KNOW HOW IS IT THE REAL SWORDS, BUT SOMETIMES LOOK FOR PICTURES WITH TOURIST ITEMS TO IDENTIFY THEM. IS POSSIBLE THAT YOU COULD PUT THE PICTURES OF ETHNOGRAPHIC EDGED WEAPONS MADE FOR THE TOURIST MARKET ( MANDAUS, BALATOS, KRIS, KAMPILAN..)? THANKS!! CARLOS

15th March 2007, 03:15 AM	#2
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Interesting idea, Carlos. Here is a Chinese Han dynasty battle sword. Bought from an established dealer as a fake. Attached Images

15th March 2007, 03:17 AM	#3
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	And a Chinese / Tibetan helmet. This helmet is so well done that an expert thought it might be real until he picked it up. If real, it would have been worth about 150 times what I paid. I will post some more later that I bought early on, thinking they were real. Attached Images

20th March 2007, 08:01 PM	#5
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	BALATO TODAY HAS ARRIVED THE BALATO AND I HAVE UNDERSTAND WHY THE SELLER DON´T ANSWER MY QUESTION ABOUT THE LENGHT...IS ONLY 13 INCH!! Attached Images

5th April 2007, 08:52 PM	#9
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 737	Another fake Philippines dagger? Attached Images

15th March 2007, 11:42 PM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	W W! That's a good fake helmet!

20th March 2007, 08:21 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	No need to boast

20th March 2007, 10:05 PM	#7
Dajak Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 951	13 inch better than 8 inch Ben

21st March 2007, 01:50 AM	#8
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Carlos, There are several things to consider. First, Nias is often faked because it is a unique and exotic culture, weapons, jewelry, statues. Second, good quality, but not truly authentic weapons are mostly going to be mid to late 20th c and will cost in the $1,000+ USD range. Authentic pieces from the headhunting days will be MUCH higher and are very, very rare. If you want to learn, spend some time on this forum. Use the "search" feature. Get to know some good dealers. Buy some books. Here is a good one on Nias. http://www.ebay.com.my/viItem?ItemId=290092374953 Check around, you might find it cheaper.

5th April 2007, 11:15 PM	#10
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	Well, I don't know about fake, but how about "recently made". Some more recent ones have eagles on them and are made of this type of later leather sheaths like this (earlier ones don't).