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Hi guys
I would like to hear your opinion on which region this dagger belongs to. I think Persia. What do you think? |
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Hello,
this three blade folding mechanism reminds me of indian Katars, where we can see this sometimes, too. So I would guess northern India is also a possibility. In my opinion, the artistical style doesn't speak against that, too. What do you think? Regards Robin |
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I completely forgot about those "drop-downs" kathars. Good version! But I'm confused by the high quality of wootz: 1) I can't remember any examples "drop-down" katars from high quality wootz 2) usually such a voots is considered Persian, unless of course I'm mistaken... Best Wishes, Dmitry |
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Persian swordsmiths were invited by the Moguls to serve at their court. It started at the end of 16th century and within the next 50-100 years Moghul swordsmiths fully adopted Persian techniques. Thus, the presence of sophisticated wootz pattern does not exclude North Indian origin.
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You are welcome.
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might be even longer present in the Indian hemispheres ...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wootz_steel |
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Complex wootz patterns ( Kara Khorasan, Kara Taban) were invented and mass produced in Persia alone till ~17th century when Persian bladesmiths relocated to the Mughal courts and instructed their Indian colleagues how to produce sophisticated patterns. |
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Are you very sure it is wootz and not pattern welded?
I am asking because I have seen pattern welded blades with very similar pattern to the one of this dagger. Anyhow, whether pattern welded or wootz, I would go for India as origin. |
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The bird heads are very similar in style to the bird heads found on the crossbars of some Indian spears. |
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