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Rick · 19th June 2021, 03:45 PM

One from the Keris world.

thomas hauschild · 19th June 2021, 08:19 PM

My favourites

David · 19th June 2021, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

One from the Keris world.

That is indeed a beaut Rick. And extraordinary pamor pattern paired with an unusual patterned pendok. Love it!

David · 19th June 2021, 08:36 PM

Here is another from the keris world, this one from Sumatra.

A. G. Maisey · 20th June 2021, 01:58 AM

Exceptional indeed Rick, and David, your example is about as good as it gets within its type also.

JustYS · 20th June 2021, 04:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

One from the Keris world.

Gorgeous Keris Rick, is that Unthuk Banyu pamor?

Also the pendok is amazing.

JustYS · 20th June 2021, 04:14 AM

My humble collection: Surakarta and Madura

Rick · 20th June 2021, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JustYS

Gorgeous Keris Rick, is that Unthuk Banyu pamor?

Also the pendok is amazing.

It could be Unthuk Banyu Justy; my Western mind sees it as balls of string, and I have forgotten so much over the years. So many names and classifications for these patterns .

A. G. Maisey · 20th June 2021, 09:20 AM

This pamor of yours is Lawe Setukel, Rick.

Lawe Setukel means "tangled thread".

This particular form, and there are a number of ways for this pamor to be interpreted, is East Javanese.

It is a very, very select pamor, very few people are able to survive having custody of this pamor, it causes confusion in daily life, forgetfulness, and difficulty in completing tasks that have been planned and should be simple to perform.

There is a tale of an Indonesian Government Minister who was desperate to obtain a particular keris that had this pamor. He eventually did obtain it after great effort, and promptly went insane.

It is generally agreed that the safest course to take if one finds oneself in possession of a keris with Lawe Setukel pamor is to give it to somebody of advanced age, preferably over the age of eighty, for safe keeping.

The reasoning behind this is that these people of advanced age have so little to lose anyway that the evil force contained in Lawe Setukel pamor cannot bring itself to attack them.

Kubur · 20th June 2021, 12:30 PM

Hi Guys

What about this stuff?

Rick · 20th June 2021, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

This pamor of yours is Lawe Setukel, Rick.

Lawe Setukel means "tangled thread".

This particular form, and there are a number of ways for this pamor to be interpreted, is East Javanese.

It is a very, very select pamor, very few people are able to survive having custody of this pamor, it causes confusion in daily life, forgetfulness, and difficulty in completing tasks that have been planned and should be simple to perform.

There is a tale of an Indonesian Government Minister who was desperate to obtain a particular keris that had this pamor. He eventually did obtain it after great effort, and promptly went insane.

It is generally agreed that the safest course to take if one finds oneself in possession of a keris with Lawe Setukel pamor is to give it to somebody of advanced age, preferably over the age of eighty, for safe keeping.

The reasoning behind this is that these people of advanced age have so little to lose anyway that the evil force contained in Lawe Setukel pamor cannot bring itself to attack them.

Now, he tells me.

The dementia pamor.

A. G. Maisey · 20th June 2021, 02:12 PM

Better late than never Rick.

I was 80 last February --- always willing to help out an old mate.

Rafngard · 20th June 2021, 09:04 PM

If things from the Pamor side of the world are fair game now on this thread, he's a few favorites from my collection.

Have fun,
Leif

DaveA · 22nd June 2021, 06:05 AM

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Lee raises a very good point about the usefulness of X-Ray Fluorescence (XRF) in assessing the elemental composition of blades. While there are some technical issues with detecting certain elements, the technique is non-destructive and well suited to analyzing the surface of weapons. It offers important insight, for example, into the metals used in old blades. Look forward to seeing what the results turn up, Lee.

I assume that I cannot just order an XRF from Amazon. How does one obtain access to such a scientific instrument? Is there a home-built hack for this tech? Could be handy!

David · 22nd June 2021, 01:59 PM

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I assume that I cannot just order an XRF from Amazon. How does one obtain access to such a scientific instrument? Is there a home-built hack for this tech? Could be handy!

Just google them Dave. They are many companies making these and they are very easy to obtain...if you have a spare $15-20,000 laying around. LOL!

Lee · 22nd June 2021, 03:23 PM

Dave, there are a number of companies that offer short term rentals of these instruments as they may be used for environmental toxin detection and also for minerals prospecting. Very often junkyards and brokers in precious metals will have units and they may be an economical source for a few scans of a particular object. The hard part, ultimately, may be interpreting the data.

RSWORD · 22nd June 2021, 07:56 PM

Two of my favorite blades to add to the mix.

Battara · 25th June 2021, 02:08 AM

Rick love that pattern weld!

JBG163 · 25th June 2021, 09:33 PM

Here is mine

Battara · 26th June 2021, 03:18 AM

I would LOVE a pattern laminated (or wootz) kora!

Indio_Ira · 8th July 2021, 04:55 AM

Here's three of mines.

A straight kris

Budiak moro spear

and a Kampilan.

Will post more detailed photos of each blades and spear to gain knowledge from all of you.

Thanks!

19th June 2021, 03:45 PM	#31
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,301	One from the Keris world. Attached Images

19th June 2021, 08:19 PM	#32
thomas hauschild Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Germany Posts: 139	Barong , cojang and sikin-parang My favourites Attached Images

19th June 2021, 08:36 PM	#34
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,165	Here is another from the keris world, this one from Sumatra. Attached Images

20th June 2021, 04:14 AM	#37
JustYS Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 139	My humble collection: Surakarta and Madura Attached Images

20th June 2021, 12:30 PM	#40
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Guys What about this stuff? Attached Images

20th June 2021, 01:58 AM	#35
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,924	Exceptional indeed Rick, and David, your example is about as good as it gets within its type also.

20th June 2021, 09:20 AM	#39
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,924	This pamor of yours is Lawe Setukel, Rick. Lawe Setukel means "tangled thread". This particular form, and there are a number of ways for this pamor to be interpreted, is East Javanese. It is a very, very select pamor, very few people are able to survive having custody of this pamor, it causes confusion in daily life, forgetfulness, and difficulty in completing tasks that have been planned and should be simple to perform. There is a tale of an Indonesian Government Minister who was desperate to obtain a particular keris that had this pamor. He eventually did obtain it after great effort, and promptly went insane. It is generally agreed that the safest course to take if one finds oneself in possession of a keris with Lawe Setukel pamor is to give it to somebody of advanced age, preferably over the age of eighty, for safe keeping. The reasoning behind this is that these people of advanced age have so little to lose anyway that the evil force contained in Lawe Setukel pamor cannot bring itself to attack them.

20th June 2021, 02:12 PM	#42
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,924	Better late than never Rick. I was 80 last February --- always willing to help out an old mate.

20th June 2021, 09:04 PM	#43
Rafngard Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Minneapolis,MN Posts: 342	If things from the Pamor side of the world are fair game now on this thread, he's a few favorites from my collection. Have fun, Leif Attached Images

22nd June 2021, 03:23 PM	#46
Lee EAAF Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Upstate New York, USA Posts: 917	XRF Dave, there are a number of companies that offer short term rentals of these instruments as they may be used for environmental toxin detection and also for minerals prospecting. Very often junkyards and brokers in precious metals will have units and they may be an economical source for a few scans of a particular object. The hard part, ultimately, may be interpreting the data.

22nd June 2021, 07:56 PM	#47
RSWORD Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 1,084	Two of my favorite blades to add to the mix. Attached Images

25th June 2021, 02:08 AM	#48
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,240	Rick love that pattern weld!

25th June 2021, 09:33 PM	#49
JBG163 Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: France Posts: 207	Here is mine Attached Images

26th June 2021, 03:18 AM	#50
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,240	I would LOVE a pattern laminated (or wootz) kora!

8th July 2021, 04:55 AM	#51
Indio_Ira Member Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 26	Here's three of mines. A straight kris Budiak moro spear and a Kampilan. Will post more detailed photos of each blades and spear to gain knowledge from all of you. Thanks! Attached Images