French sabre for comments

bvieira · 30th January 2021, 08:45 PM

Any apreciation is welcome! its light as a feather!

kronckew · 31st January 2021, 07:30 AM

Cool! Looks very Hussar-like to me. I'm not much up on French late 18-early 19c sabres, so Others I am sure can pin it down. Klingenthal made the best blades at the time, and I've heard British officers would frequently pick up a no longer operational opponent's Klingenthal sword to use in place of his own.

corrado26 · 31st January 2021, 08:56 AM

Sabre d'Officier de Cavalerie legère M an XI, light cavaly officer sabre model year 11

Victrix · 31st January 2021, 10:48 AM

Or even M an IX?

mariusgmioc · 31st January 2021, 03:56 PM

The "Coulaux Freres a Klingenthal" corresponds to the post-napoleonic period.

More accurate dating can be done based on the stamps on the blade and on the hilt... if any.
However, if there are any stamps on the ricasso they may be masked by the langets.

corrado26 · 31st January 2021, 05:02 PM

Sorry, but Coulaux Frères took this name at the 21st of april 1801, so the sabre has been made clearly in the Napoleonic aera!

mariusgmioc · 31st January 2021, 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by corrado26

Sorry, but Coulaux Frères took this name at the 21st of april 1801, so the sabre has been made clearly in the Napoleonic aera!

I agree this is a Napoleonic era model "An XI" light cavalry sword but...

1. The swords made during Napoleonic era were generally marked with "Manuf. Imp. ..." or different alternative shortenings for the imperial manufacture. The Coulaux brothers didn't sign in their own name until much later.

2. If I remember correctly this model was produced until about 1822 when it was replaced with a new one, with a more elaborate hilt.

From "Armes Blanches" by Lhoste and Buigne, it appears this marking was used after Napoleonic era (see pages 231-234).

See also the article by Mr. Jean Bink.

http://users.skynet.be/euro-swords/klingenthal.htm

So my guess is that it was made sometime between 1815 and 1822.

Anyhow, the stamps on the ricasso and hilt should allow a more accurate dating.

bvieira · 31st January 2021, 07:05 PM

Hello,

Tks for all the comments.

From what I know it's napoleonic, I also have another one with similar model but more precious.

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bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	French sabre for comments Any apreciation is welcome! its light as a feather! Attached Images

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bvieira Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Posts: 108	Hello, Tks for all the comments. From what I know it's napoleonic, I also have another one with similar model but more precious. Attached Images

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kronckew Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Room 101, Glos. UK Posts: 4,183	Cool! Looks very Hussar-like to me. I'm not much up on French late 18-early 19c sabres, so Others I am sure can pin it down. Klingenthal made the best blades at the time, and I've heard British officers would frequently pick up a no longer operational opponent's Klingenthal sword to use in place of his own.

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corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Sabre d'Officier de Cavalerie legère M an XI, light cavaly officer sabre model year 11

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Victrix Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Sweden Posts: 710	Or even M an IX?

31st January 2021, 03:56 PM	#5
mariusgmioc Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Austria Posts: 1,903	The "Coulaux Freres a Klingenthal" corresponds to the post-napoleonic period. More accurate dating can be done based on the stamps on the blade and on the hilt... if any. However, if there are any stamps on the ricasso they may be masked by the langets.

31st January 2021, 05:02 PM	#6
corrado26 Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: Black Forest, Germany Posts: 1,204	Sorry, but Coulaux Frères took this name at the 21st of april 1801, so the sabre has been made clearly in the Napoleonic aera!