A dagger blade ... and questions, please

fernando · 29th August 2019, 04:39 PM

Now, what would this blade be for ?
Certainly for a dagger but ... what type ... and where from ?
The grip, how would it be ? Could anyone here show me an example ?
The tang end has a screw thread. Would it have a pommel ... of the (approx.) spherical type ?

Could any of you guys answer some of these questions ?

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David R · 1st September 2019, 12:51 AM

Could be from a Russian Naval Dirk....

Rick · 1st September 2019, 01:18 AM

Blade from a trench knife maybe?

M ELEY · 1st September 2019, 10:06 AM

I think its safe to guess that it is indeed a dirk, judging from where the pommel would have screwed onto the tang. The trefoil blades were seen on some naval pieces, as David pointed out. Likewise, some generic boot knives had them. Hmm, without markings, its hard to pin this one down for sure.

fernando · 1st September 2019, 03:04 PM

Thank you for your kind assistance, guys.
Yes, the cross section like i (think i) see in the Russian dirks shown by David tend to be more the thing. I have then tried to explore data info in the web but, the examples that popup are more towards the (early) 20th century, whereas i think my piece is as early as 19th century; not so fancy, shining and all.
Also a (an)typical detail is the recasso cross section; besides this being a three faced blade, with one purely flat and he other two in a concave attitude, the 'upper' edge starts after a curve, leaving a space between it and the whatever guard mounted to it.
Would you guys say this is as common as to not to point to something specific ?

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fernando · 2nd September 2019, 07:25 PM

Rather handy for thumb control.

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29th August 2019, 04:39 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	A dagger blade ... and questions, please Now, what would this blade be for ? Certainly for a dagger but ... what type ... and where from ? The grip, how would it be ? Could anyone here show me an example ? The tang end has a screw thread. Would it have a pommel ... of the (approx.) spherical type ? Could any of you guys answer some of these questions ? . Attached Images

1st September 2019, 12:51 AM	#2
David R Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 1,079	Could be from a Russian Naval Dirk.... Attached Images

1st September 2019, 01:18 AM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,293	Blade from a trench knife maybe? Attached Images

1st September 2019, 03:04 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you for your kind assistance, guys. Yes, the cross section like i (think i) see in the Russian dirks shown by David tend to be more the thing. I have then tried to explore data info in the web but, the examples that popup are more towards the (early) 20th century, whereas i think my piece is as early as 19th century; not so fancy, shining and all. Also a (an)typical detail is the recasso cross section; besides this being a three faced blade, with one purely flat and he other two in a concave attitude, the 'upper' edge starts after a curve, leaving a space between it and the whatever guard mounted to it. Would you guys say this is as common as to not to point to something specific ? . . Attached Images Last edited by fernando; 1st September 2019 at 04:35 PM.

2nd September 2019, 07:25 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Rather handy for thumb control. . Attached Images

1st September 2019, 10:06 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,097	I think its safe to guess that it is indeed a dirk, judging from where the pommel would have screwed onto the tang. The trefoil blades were seen on some naval pieces, as David pointed out. Likewise, some generic boot knives had them. Hmm, without markings, its hard to pin this one down for sure.