Interesting swords.

ariel · 19th April 2006, 08:15 PM

These two just ended. They were labelled Ottoman, 19th century.
IMHO, they are modern Indian/Pakistani.
That aside, look at the decoration of the blades: doesn't it strike you as remarkably similar and mechanically-made?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

being a techological naif, I just want to know, whether such process is possible and whether you are aware in it's use in blademaking?

Battara · 21st April 2006, 10:25 PM

I was wondering the same thing. The second one is modern for me without question, but the first one I was wondering about the engravings - blade real but remounted recently?

Tim Simmons · 21st April 2006, 10:33 PM

Gosh, I am starting to think that things from Afghanistan and surounding countries have to be seen in the same like as stuff from China, well dodgy.

Ian · 21st April 2006, 11:21 PM

I go with modern for both. There have been quite a few of these pieces in the last year or two.

Ian.

Rick · 22nd April 2006, 12:00 AM

The engraving looks hand done .
I don't think that one can get results like those by etching .
Possibly the pieces are etched first then hand engraved ; that would speed up the process .

I hate those conical points !

19th April 2006, 08:15 PM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Interesting swords. These two just ended. They were labelled Ottoman, 19th century. IMHO, they are modern Indian/Pakistani. That aside, look at the decoration of the blades: doesn't it strike you as remarkably similar and mechanically-made? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 and http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1 being a techological naif, I just want to know, whether such process is possible and whether you are aware in it's use in blademaking?

21st April 2006, 10:25 PM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,229	I was wondering the same thing. The second one is modern for me without question, but the first one I was wondering about the engravings - blade real but remounted recently?

21st April 2006, 10:33 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,807	Gosh, I am starting to think that things from Afghanistan and surounding countries have to be seen in the same like as stuff from China, well dodgy.

21st April 2006, 11:21 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,207	I go with modern for both. There have been quite a few of these pieces in the last year or two. Ian.

22nd April 2006, 12:00 AM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,294	The engraving looks hand done . I don't think that one can get results like those by etching . Possibly the pieces are etched first then hand engraved ; that would speed up the process . I hate those conical points !