Indian Matchlock with bayonet

stenoyab · 6th February 2016, 08:15 PM

I posted this on the forum over 10 years ago, but the old threads appear lost, so in reference to more recent thread I'm posted it again.

Its a fairly scarce example as it retains its original matchlock bayonet, still permanently attached with raw hide bands.

The barrel is 55"
From butt to bayonet tip its 83"

The inscription appears to be a weapon registration number, and was deciphered years ago by a forum member as "Raj Jaisal Teh Pokhran 726". Suggesting that this weapons is inventory number 726 in Tehsil Pokhran, District Jaisalmer, Rajasthan.

Pukka Bundook · 7th February 2016, 05:05 PM

I Wondered how those bayonets were affixed, Stenoyab!

Thanks for showing.
It looks a Very nice gun. nice to have the impliments as well, but nicer still, to have an idea where it came from.
So often in Indian arms, we have "Indian tulwar" or Indian torador" and nothing more.
Congrats on finding such a Nice one, With some provenance!

Jens Nordlunde · 7th February 2016, 05:56 PM

Could you please gime the measures of the retain in the middle?
Length of the 'blade' and the measure where it is thickest.
Could this be such a one? Length of blade 5 cm, at the broadest 5 mm.

stenoyab · 7th February 2016, 07:39 PM

Hi Pukka, whats worth noting is once attached its not designed to be removed, its always left fixed. I wonder if they may have had a blade cover.

Hi Jens, Its 90mm overall, 60mm point, width doesn't really matter as its only the fine pointed first 20mm that go within the vent hole.
Could yours be a tooth pick ? as it appears to come out of a knife handle.

Jens Nordlunde · 7th February 2016, 08:01 PM

I very much doubt that it a tooth pick - of steel!
But what can it be?

Pukka Bundook · 7th February 2016, 10:36 PM

Jens,

I have read that a small 'pricker' was sometimes carried and used for removing thorns from oneself. (or others!)
It seems a very likely use for this little item.

My grandfather had a pocket knife with just such an arrangement. The pricker fitted in down one side of the handle and a tiny pair of tweezers down the other. both were removed from the knife for use. the little pricker dug many a thorn or thistle from a family member!

Stay safe,
Richard.

6th February 2016, 08:15 PM	#1
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	Indian Matchlock with bayonet I posted this on the forum over 10 years ago, but the old threads appear lost, so in reference to more recent thread I'm posted it again. Its a fairly scarce example as it retains its original matchlock bayonet, still permanently attached with raw hide bands. The barrel is 55" From butt to bayonet tip its 83" The inscription appears to be a weapon registration number, and was deciphered years ago by a forum member as "Raj Jaisal Teh Pokhran 726". Suggesting that this weapons is inventory number 726 in Tehsil Pokhran, District Jaisalmer, Rajasthan. Attached Images

7th February 2016, 05:56 PM	#3
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	Could you please gime the measures of the retain in the middle? Length of the 'blade' and the measure where it is thickest. Could this be such a one? Length of blade 5 cm, at the broadest 5 mm. Attached Images

7th February 2016, 05:05 PM	#2
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	I Wondered how those bayonets were affixed, Stenoyab! Thanks for showing. It looks a Very nice gun. nice to have the impliments as well, but nicer still, to have an idea where it came from. So often in Indian arms, we have "Indian tulwar" or Indian torador" and nothing more. Congrats on finding such a Nice one, With some provenance!

7th February 2016, 07:39 PM	#4
stenoyab Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43	Hi Pukka, whats worth noting is once attached its not designed to be removed, its always left fixed. I wonder if they may have had a blade cover. Hi Jens, Its 90mm overall, 60mm point, width doesn't really matter as its only the fine pointed first 20mm that go within the vent hole. Could yours be a tooth pick ? as it appears to come out of a knife handle.

7th February 2016, 08:01 PM	#5
Jens Nordlunde Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Europe Posts: 2,718	I very much doubt that it a tooth pick - of steel! But what can it be?

7th February 2016, 10:36 PM	#6
Pukka Bundook Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 803	Jens, I have read that a small 'pricker' was sometimes carried and used for removing thorns from oneself. (or others!) It seems a very likely use for this little item. My grandfather had a pocket knife with just such an arrangement. The pricker fitted in down one side of the handle and a tiny pair of tweezers down the other. both were removed from the knife for use. the little pricker dug many a thorn or thistle from a family member! Stay safe, Richard.