A strange Keris !!!

Nicolas granet · 6th December 2005, 04:51 PM

Hello, me again,
(this time I found a reliable way to show my pictures)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/granet_n/

Here, you'll see the strange keris I've found...

I say "stange" because the blade seems NOT to be coated with a black layer, the blade is clearly not rough. It reminds me something of a moro blade, seems to have no pamor (no etching).

So is it a fake?
Is it a geniune one?
Something else?
old? new?

Thank you for your expertise

Nicolas

nechesh · 6th December 2005, 07:25 PM

Nicholas, there is absolutely nothing stange about this keris, it is a fairly typical late 19thC style Balinese keris. This is not BTW, the keris which came up for me in your previous thread. That one, also Balinese, was a much nicer keris.

nechesh · 6th December 2005, 07:46 PM

Just to go a bit further, it is the tradition of Balinese blades to be polished to a smooth finish. Also a blade will only be black if treated with Warangan (arsenic and lime) and this must be done from time to time to keep up the color. This blade is obviously overdue. Since it is polished in the mode of Balinese blades it may very well have a pamor pattern that you just can't see until it is re-stained...or it may have no pamor. This is not at all unusal for Indonesian keris

Nicolas granet · 6th December 2005, 10:06 PM

Thanks for your help Nechesh!
This one is clearly not as the ones I already own

Where did you learn all that? books? experiances?

Rick · 6th December 2005, 10:20 PM

Hang around for awhile ; use the search function .
You'll be amazed !

carlos · 8th December 2005, 07:54 PM

THIS KERIS IS IN A OPEN AUCTION IN EBAY!!!
http://cgi.ebay.es/ANCIEN-KRISS-MALA...QQcmdZViewItem

nechesh · 8th December 2005, 08:44 PM

Will they never learn!

BluErf · 8th December 2005, 11:23 PM

Education is a never-ending process. Once stopped, its downhill all the way.

6th December 2005, 04:51 PM	#1
Nicolas granet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	A strange Keris !!! Hello, me again, (this time I found a reliable way to show my pictures) http://www.flickr.com/photos/granet_n/ Here, you'll see the strange keris I've found... I say "stange" because the blade seems NOT to be coated with a black layer, the blade is clearly not rough. It reminds me something of a moro blade, seems to have no pamor (no etching). So is it a fake? Is it a geniune one? Something else? old? new? Thank you for your expertise Nicolas

6th December 2005, 10:20 PM	#5
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	Nicolas Hang around for awhile ; use the search function . You'll be amazed !

8th December 2005, 07:54 PM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	OPEN AUCTION !!! THIS KERIS IS IN A OPEN AUCTION IN EBAY!!! http://cgi.ebay.es/ANCIEN-KRISS-MALA...QQcmdZViewItem

6th December 2005, 07:25 PM	#2
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Nicholas, there is absolutely nothing stange about this keris, it is a fairly typical late 19thC style Balinese keris. This is not BTW, the keris which came up for me in your previous thread. That one, also Balinese, was a much nicer keris.

6th December 2005, 07:46 PM	#3
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Just to go a bit further, it is the tradition of Balinese blades to be polished to a smooth finish. Also a blade will only be black if treated with Warangan (arsenic and lime) and this must be done from time to time to keep up the color. This blade is obviously overdue. Since it is polished in the mode of Balinese blades it may very well have a pamor pattern that you just can't see until it is re-stained...or it may have no pamor. This is not at all unusal for Indonesian keris

6th December 2005, 10:06 PM	#4
Nicolas granet Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	Thanks for your help Nechesh! This one is clearly not as the ones I already own Where did you learn all that? books? experiances?

8th December 2005, 08:44 PM	#7
nechesh Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cincinnati, OH Posts: 940	Will they never learn!

8th December 2005, 11:23 PM	#8
BluErf Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,180	Education is a never-ending process. Once stopped, its downhill all the way.