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26th August 2012, 09:03 PM
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Illyrian / Greek Sword for identification.
Hello,
i have this sword since this summer . i think it is illyrian sword. Can someone help me identify it . Thx |
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27th August 2012, 01:08 AM
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Hi
my favorite field is - Islamic edged weapons, that's more contemporary, than it's antic with your sword, we are entering in archaeological era, we aren't any more in ethnography  I've looked for by curiosity, because the word "Illyrian" was unknown for me here a link, who shows the complexity of these populations http://www.ancient-battles.com/catw/illyria.htm as per as this site - some of the true warriors were poorly equipped, just a wooden mace, instead of a sword ...  in spare time, I'll have a look on my books documentation à + Dom |
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27th August 2012, 05:38 AM
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Dimensions would help. Problem is that several people and firms make replica swords of this type. Getting the dimensions would help sort out whether it's genuine, a replica from a place like Del Tin or some other maker. The original swords are relatively better-made than the replicas, but I wouldn't try to judge whether a sword is original based on a photograph.
I'm not an expert, but it appears to be the widespread and long-lived "Naue II" type. There are various formal types of bronze age sword (http://www.salimbeti.com/micenei/weapons1.htm), and you can check yourself. Best, F |
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27th August 2012, 10:26 AM
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Look at this : Why would they die with gold in their mouth and fight with wood in their hand ? Illyrian soldier were famous and used in all european army until 19th century . |
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27th August 2012, 10:47 AM
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I agree with Fearn that this looks like the 'Naue II' type used across a wide area.
I think Neil Burridge makes a nice replica of this type, so if you google his name you'll find his site. I can't add a link as it's a commercial site. As has been said there are several makers of reproductions out there, and there are also old replicas as well which doesn't help. However, that said I don't get that feeling from yours but it's difficult to say for sure that it's genuine. The patina looks good and I like the level of damage/use that it seems to have suffered. It's easy to imagine it being used in a famous battle from one of our great epics. A beautiful sword. Can you tell us more about how it came into your possession and what if any 'background' that you have on it's provenance? |
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27th August 2012, 11:26 AM
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Heres one at the end of this link,
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...t=stabalicious I do have some doubts I am sorry to say. I do not like the controled nibbling. |
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29th August 2012, 12:32 AM
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Incidentally, one of Neil Burridge's swords is shown at: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=15248
Best, F |
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29th August 2012, 10:45 AM
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what you mean fearn ? i dont see it ? wich one is it ?
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29th August 2012, 03:57 PM
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30th August 2012, 10:45 PM
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some new photos
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