Sunggingan Keris Dress

dbhmgb · 1st June 2012, 08:51 PM

Yet another eBay keris that I didn't expect to win. I've been interested in a keris with sunggingan dress, so now I have one. Just from the pictures, the work appears to be just fair, nothing great, and the blade seems average. I'm guessing it's a fairly recent piece. I like it and I got it at a low price I could afford, so it will work for me.

David · 1st June 2012, 09:40 PM

I agree all around. Recent keris, recent painting. Finding an old examples of sunggingan is rare. I have an old Bali example. But if the price was right and you like this then all is good.
Can't see the details too well in these photos, but i would say that as these newer examples go this one doesn't look too bad and it represents an keris ensemble that would be very expensive if antique.

dbhmgb · 1st June 2012, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by David

Can't see the details too well in these photos, but i would say that as these newer examples go this one doesn't look too bad and it represents an keris ensemble that would be very expensive if antique.

Maybe if I live long enough...

Rick · 2nd June 2012, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by dbhmgb

Maybe if I live long enough...

Or ....
Maybe if you save long enough .

dbhmgb · 2nd June 2012, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Or ....
Maybe if you save long enough .

Like, for (active sale removed)

Rick · 2nd June 2012, 04:30 AM

Sorry Dan, that link was a no-no .

But, to answer your question; no, not like that .

dbhmgb · 2nd June 2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

Sorry Dan, that link was a no-no .

But, to answer your question; no, not like that .

Whoops! Sorry about that...

But, I didn't think that's what you meant...

A. G. Maisey · 3rd June 2012, 07:30 AM

Here are a few of my sunggingans, all recent, all done by Pak Legiman of Pajang during the late 1980's.

dbhmgb · 3rd June 2012, 01:40 PM

Thank you for those pictures, Alan, his work is beautiful. I don't know much about Pak Legiman, could you give a brief bio?

Thanks!

Dan

A. G. Maisey · 3rd June 2012, 02:24 PM

Neither do I Dan. He was a craftsman who was working in Solo at that time. He did wayang puppets, keris decoration, and other similar things. Some people said he was the best working then, and amongst the best ever. Maybe he was for a while, but then his eyes started to go, his quality dropped off, and he turned to other means of support. I forget exactly what he went into, maybe some sort of food production, or it might have been something to do with clothing. I really forget.

A correction. I said all these were done by Legiman. Not true. He did all the keris, I don't know who did the two wedung scabbards, because I ordered them through a third party.

dbhmgb · 3rd June 2012, 02:33 PM

Thanks Alan!

1st June 2012, 08:51 PM	#1
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Sunggingan Keris Dress Yet another eBay keris that I didn't expect to win. I've been interested in a keris with sunggingan dress, so now I have one. Just from the pictures, the work appears to be just fair, nothing great, and the blade seems average. I'm guessing it's a fairly recent piece. I like it and I got it at a low price I could afford, so it will work for me. Attached Images

3rd June 2012, 07:30 AM	#8
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,924	Here are a few of my sunggingans, all recent, all done by Pak Legiman of Pajang during the late 1980's. Attached Images

1st June 2012, 09:40 PM	#2
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,165	I agree all around. Recent keris, recent painting. Finding an old examples of sunggingan is rare. I have an old Bali example. But if the price was right and you like this then all is good. Can't see the details too well in these photos, but i would say that as these newer examples go this one doesn't look too bad and it represents an keris ensemble that would be very expensive if antique.

2nd June 2012, 04:30 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,301	Sorry Dan, that link was a no-no . But, to answer your question; no, not like that .

3rd June 2012, 01:40 PM	#9
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Thank you for those pictures, Alan, his work is beautiful. I don't know much about Pak Legiman, could you give a brief bio? Thanks! Dan

3rd June 2012, 02:24 PM	#10
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,924	Neither do I Dan. He was a craftsman who was working in Solo at that time. He did wayang puppets, keris decoration, and other similar things. Some people said he was the best working then, and amongst the best ever. Maybe he was for a while, but then his eyes started to go, his quality dropped off, and he turned to other means of support. I forget exactly what he went into, maybe some sort of food production, or it might have been something to do with clothing. I really forget. A correction. I said all these were done by Legiman. Not true. He did all the keris, I don't know who did the two wedung scabbards, because I ordered them through a third party.

3rd June 2012, 02:33 PM	#11
dbhmgb Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Maryland, USA Posts: 112	Thanks Alan!