British naval sword m1827

[Alexander]

Dear friends. I want to ask to help at you to me.
1. I can not read a name of the manufacturer (... EVES)?
2. As I don't know a name of the manufacturer (star)?
You could write me a name of the manufacturer of a sword and exact date of manufacturing.
Respect, Alexander.

[broadaxe]

I hate to say and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a replica: too clean, small details are blurry and of low quality

[fernando]

Originally Posted by broadaxe

I hate to say and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a replica: too clean, small details are blurry and of low quality

And you are probably right; too bad

[Norman McCormick]

Hi Alexander,
The letters are for Gieves who were outfitters and not makers and IF the sword is correct probably supplied after 1916. British military swords came in different degrees of quality and in times of war when there would have been a great demand for swords quality may have sufffered. There should be a cartouche on the blade for the monarch in this case probably GRV but maybe GRVI or ERII as Gieves were in business into the 1960's, please have a look at the blade and see if any of these are on it. There is always the possibility of the guard having been damaged and subsequently re-gilded giving the impression of substandard casting. The sword may be a repro but I can't remember seeing one with Gieves and/or an S proof mark but there is always a first time! Hope this is of some help.
Regards,
Norman.

[Evgeny_K]

This is M1846 naval sword, not M1827.
I don't think that it could be a reproduction.

[asomotif]

I am with Norman and Evgeny.

Not a repro, but just an affordable alternative as officers had to buy their own sword.

The royal Cypher on the blade would be nice to see in order date the sword.
Also a picture of the handle and of the scabbard mountings would give some more insight in the overall quality of this sword.

Best regards,
Willem

[thinreadline]

This pattern of naval sword has been heavily reproduced in India and sold via World Wide Arms, however, whether any of them have the Gieves name on them I so not know, though I have seen them with a variety of makers / retailers on the blade. The crown is a Kings crown and so this puports to be post 1902 . It must also therefore be ( if genuine ) pre 1953. Gieves changed its name to Gieves & Hawkes in 1974 . The repro swords ( & I am not saying this is a repro ) were never supplied with a sword knot, but World Wide Arms have been selling genuine naval sword knots which they acquired from Wilkinsons when they closed down.

[Alexander]

I send additional photos.

[broadaxe]

I stand correct, much better photos show good details. King George the 5th emblem (reignd 1910-1936), this is a genuine sword.

[fernando]

Originally Posted by broadaxe

I stand correct, much better photos show good details. King George the 5th emblem (reignd 1910-1936), this is a genuine sword.

Amen .
.... with owner's name and everything .

[thinreadline]

As Gieves still exists as Gieves & Hawkes, you could try asking them to check in their records for when the sword was sold . Most retailers kept order books .
Richmond

[Multumesc]

Beautiful sword...