What is it?

ariel · 27th July 2011, 01:02 AM

Just ended on e-bay. I have no idea what it is. The leaf-like blade makes me think Wales. Am I totally wrong?

Rick · 27th July 2011, 01:46 AM

The hilt reminds me of an interpretation of the bollock dagger .
Close up of the mark available ?

M ELEY · 27th July 2011, 06:18 AM

Hmmm... The general form of the blade conforms to the American artillery officer's swords of the 1830's. They in turn were copying the Roman gladius. Later Confederate artillery soldier's patterns had this style blade with brass hilts with fishskin-type grips. Likewise, British band swords used similar patterns in the 1850's.
The French were the first to use the gladius pattern with brass hilt, after the that strange Ecol D' Mars pattern. I think that this one is a French pattern sword of the same form that was used for fraternal purposes. I'll try and russle up some pics from the net (I'm at work and can't post).

M ELEY · 27th July 2011, 06:56 AM

A huge apology to the Moderators for this, but I can't post pics from my work computer!!

I'll try and transfer them soon, but for now-
Here are links to pics.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:In...31_mg_5113.jpg

http://arms2armor.com/store/product892.html

http://www.swordsales.eu/1856-Patter...-Drummers.html

http://www.imagestate.com/Preview/Pr...licenseType=RM

ariel · 27th July 2011, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick

The hilt reminds me of an interpretation of the bollock dagger .
Close up of the mark available ?

Unfortunately, no close-up. It appears to be etched, not stamped.

27th July 2011, 01:02 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	What is it? Just ended on e-bay. I have no idea what it is. The leaf-like blade makes me think Wales. Am I totally wrong? Attached Images

27th July 2011, 06:18 AM	#3
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	Hmmm... The general form of the blade conforms to the American artillery officer's swords of the 1830's. They in turn were copying the Roman gladius. Later Confederate artillery soldier's patterns had this style blade with brass hilts with fishskin-type grips. Likewise, British band swords used similar patterns in the 1850's. The French were the first to use the gladius pattern with brass hilt, after the that strange Ecol D' Mars pattern. I think that this one is a French pattern sword of the same form that was used for fraternal purposes. I'll try and russle up some pics from the net (I'm at work and can't post). Last edited by M ELEY; 27th July 2011 at 06:45 AM.

27th July 2011, 06:56 AM	#4
M ELEY Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NC, U.S.A. Posts: 2,141	A huge apology to the Moderators for this, but I can't post pics from my work computer!! I'll try and transfer them soon, but for now- Here are links to pics. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:In...31_mg_5113.jpg http://arms2armor.com/store/product892.html http://www.swordsales.eu/1856-Patter...-Drummers.html http://www.imagestate.com/Preview/Pr...licenseType=RM Last edited by M ELEY; 27th July 2011 at 07:17 AM.

27th July 2011, 01:46 AM	#2
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,336	The hilt reminds me of an interpretation of the bollock dagger . Close up of the mark available ?