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I'll let the pictures do the talking:
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Will you restore it ?
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Restore it? I doubt it TBH, I don't know much about these. Am I right in thinking it's an old blade in later dress? Thanks Gene |
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Hi Gene, sure looks like it to me; Older Maranao(?) blade anyway .
It is missing a asang asang (blade stirrup); the scabbard looks to have some age though possibly not original; how's the blade fit ? Rick |
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Hmmm, I have to admit I don't know what that means (Maranao), lol! I noticed the blade stirrup was missing. You think the scabbard could be good? It appears to be painted with some kind of black stain that hasn't soaked in. Would probobly come off? Should I? Scabbard seems a good fit. Any guess as to the date of the blade? Thanks again Gene Last edited by Atlantia; 11th June 2011 at 09:58 PM. |
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Only thing is the hilt - not sure about it. Looks kind of Malaysian.......
![]() BTW - Maranao is a Moro tribe in the Philippines living in northern Mindanao Island. Also I see that the scabbard may have have had 6 or so small metal bands originally and the wrap on the hilt is a later addition. Last edited by Battara; 11th June 2011 at 10:15 PM. |
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![]() Thanks, thats very interesting. The ferrule is pretty ugly too. Ahh, I see what you mean about the mounts. Would you strip the dark 'stain' off and reveal the wood? What date would you put on the blade? Best Gene |
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A blade like this, IMO, is 19th I would guess,*only* a guess tho .
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Thanks Gene |
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Hi Gene,
Indeed a very different pommel..but it looks old though. I also agree that the windings and the ferrule (is it damar?) are latter. The scabbard I would leave it in the condition it is now. If you remove the dark stain, you probably will get a very "naked" scabbard.... ![]() Very different scabbardtip also.... I like the blade, and it looks old to me. Can you see if the elephanttrunk has broken off in the past? Kind Regards, Maurice |
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I agree with Maurice in keeping the dark stain/patina on the scabbard.
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Thanks guys,
Sorry Maurice I don't know where the elephants trunk is? The pommel doesn't look to have been broken at any time, is that the elephants head? |
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Normally this "trunk" is a bit longer as on yours? |
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Doesn't seem any rougher than the rest, but there is certainly wear to the blade so possibly longer once I guess? |
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Yes most likely it curled into the empty space.
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Hi Gene,
another fine and interesting addition to your collection. Agree with Maurice and Jose to let the scabbard alone. The form of the scabbard remind to some keris sheaths from northern regions of Sumatra. When I am you I would leave it like this. I only would try to etch it to see if there is a lamination. Regards, Detlef |
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It came with the collection of items, of which many seem to have a direct or possible Sumatran attribution. However, there was another possible Filipino dagger with a heavy wavy blade. I'll do as you chaps say and leave the scabbard on this one then. A buff with a soft cloth only perhaps? Best Gene |
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It has that rather ugly 'sandblasted' look to the sirface of the metal that so many Kris seem to get one the contrast is lost. Not sure what to do with it TBH. |
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Hi Gene, try to etch it, this is not a big effort and will bring out a possible nice lamination. you can use vinegar from your wifes kitchen, heat the blade and vinegar and use a brush. Normally it will work after a short time. Regards, Detlef |
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![]() Would that be better than FeCl for these? |
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![]() Regards, Detlef |
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IF you use FeCl mix it with a little distilled water, say 1/2 and 1/2?
Etch the blade and see what comes out. On the scabbard, the most I would do is place bands of either brass or silver. Otherwise leave the wood alone. On the blade, it should have a clamp on it, maybe silver, as well as etch it. |
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![]() I can see some areas where it looks like there were originally bands on the scabbard. What do you think these holes were for? |
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Atlantia,
I like it. Thanks for posting photos of this Kris. |
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On the holes - sometimes small rods/plugs kept different parts of the scabbard together. |
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