Yataghans from Lviv

ariel · 29th November 2008, 01:37 AM

Just an eye candy

http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/kiev...index.html#top

They are from the collection of the Historical Muzeum in Lviv ( Western Ukraine), Russian name Lvov, Austrian name Lemberg.
Check the bottom row: dagger with (almost!) Flyssa handle.

Gonzalo G · 29th November 2008, 04:36 AM

!Thank you! I´m saving every photo to my PC,

and still not arrive to the flyssa-like handle, but I will.
Regards

Gonzalo

Emanuel · 27th November 2013, 10:11 PM

Wow, can't believe I've missed this post over the years...

I've attached the pictures pointed out by Ariel. This is a very strange piece. It seems to be a knife for domestic use with a cast, integral bolster and handle.
The pommel is very similar to that of the flyssa, but it also closely follows the outline of pommels seen on the karabela.

The blade is inscribed "Vivat Maria Theresia" and the museum label suggests 1740-1780. What does the Cyrillic say? It coincides with the reign of Queen Maria Theresa.

This brings a lot of question about the iconic flyssa pommel design.

Emanuel

Emanuel · 27th November 2013, 10:22 PM

There are sabres and glassware with this inscription dating from that time, but this engraving looks rather poor. The scabbard also looks kind of silly.

Thoughts?

29th November 2008, 01:37 AM	#1
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Yataghans from Lviv Just an eye candy http://museum.velizariy.kiev.ua/kiev...index.html#top They are from the collection of the Historical Muzeum in Lviv ( Western Ukraine), Russian name Lvov, Austrian name Lemberg. Check the bottom row: dagger with (almost!) Flyssa handle.

27th November 2013, 10:11 PM	#3
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	Wow, can't believe I've missed this post over the years... I've attached the pictures pointed out by Ariel. This is a very strange piece. It seems to be a knife for domestic use with a cast, integral bolster and handle. The pommel is very similar to that of the flyssa, but it also closely follows the outline of pommels seen on the karabela. The blade is inscribed "Vivat Maria Theresia" and the museum label suggests 1740-1780. What does the Cyrillic say? It coincides with the reign of Queen Maria Theresa. This brings a lot of question about the iconic flyssa pommel design. Emanuel Attached Images Last edited by Emanuel; 28th November 2013 at 12:41 AM.

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29th November 2008, 04:36 AM	#2
Gonzalo G Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nothern Mexico Posts: 458	!Thank you! I´m saving every photo to my PC, and still not arrive to the flyssa-like handle, but I will. Regards Gonzalo

27th November 2013, 10:22 PM	#4
Emanuel Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,242	There are sabres and glassware with this inscription dating from that time, but this engraving looks rather poor. The scabbard also looks kind of silly. Thoughts?