You dont see these!!!! A flamboyant

Andy Davis · 14th September 2006, 12:21 AM

And last but not least from todays auction, a South Indian Flambyant sword. I will be happy to be corrected but will let the photos tell it all. This I think is my new love and surprisingly light.
Any idea on age 17thC seems a possability? And whats the lump for on the back of the blade?
Cheers
Andy

Bill M · 14th September 2006, 01:32 AM

Hey Andy! Take a look here. Look familiar?

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3165

Mine is one of my loves also.

Andy Davis · 14th September 2006, 07:54 AM

Hi Bill
I see what you mean, very nice and very similar in style but detail is certainly different. I would guess the handle on mine is a Victorian replacement and would have been closer to yours.
I only get the name from Rawsons reference and the other writers that copy his deffinitions. In "The Indian Sword" there are photos of two similar, one with this odd stud on the back of the blade but still no reference as to why?
Cheers
Andy

Ian · 14th September 2006, 01:27 PM

Thanks Andy.

We don't see these very often and this blade certainly appears to have some age. Too bad the original handle is long gone, but a beautiful example of a Nair sword nonetheless.

Congratulations on finding this old gem.

Ian.

Bill M · 15th September 2006, 01:53 AM

Neat! Andy. Congrats on an interesting sword.

ariel · 15th September 2006, 02:00 AM

Andy,
Very, very nice and very, very interesting sword. Terrific addition to any collection.
Congratulations!

Andy Davis · 15th September 2006, 05:34 PM

Do we know if these were actually fighting weapons or ceremonial? Balance is great and weight surprisingly light but very robust, so I would go for the fighting option. I had an idea on the stud on the back of the blade, in that if you were using it for sacrifise, it would be the perfect possition to strike the victim from; judged from a downward swing from above. Is it therefore a form of sight for a sword!!
I'm currently deciding how to totally re-gig the collection to give this pride of place.

Battara · 16th September 2006, 08:35 PM

I would agree that this is a fighting piece. This is supported in Elgood's book.

Andy Davis · 17th September 2006, 02:31 PM

Just had a strike of insight on the stud which nobody wants to pass opinion on (Not even Rawson, who does mention it).
It might be there just to let the sword stand upright on the back of its blade.
The photo seems to give it the right appearance/angle for that use.
Cheers
Andy

Ian · 17th September 2006, 02:37 PM

Andy:

That makes a lot of sense.

BTW, has anyone ever seen a scabbard for one of these swords? I have not. Maybe they usually sat out on a table or altar, and lying on the spine was there natural storage posture.

Ian.

Bill M · 17th September 2006, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ian

Andy:

That makes a lot of sense.

BTW, has anyone ever seen a scabbard for one of these swords? I have not. Maybe they usually sat out on a table or altar, and lying on the spine was there natural storage posture.

Ian.

Ian and Andy.

This is news, good news, to me also. I don't have the stud

on the back of mine, but they sure look right standing on their spines.

BTW great picture Andy!

Bill

14th September 2006, 12:21 AM	#1
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	You dont see these!!!! A flamboyant And last but not least from todays auction, a South Indian Flambyant sword. I will be happy to be corrected but will let the photos tell it all. This I think is my new love and surprisingly light. Any idea on age 17thC seems a possability? And whats the lump for on the back of the blade? Cheers Andy Attached Images

15th September 2006, 05:34 PM	#7
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Sword sights Do we know if these were actually fighting weapons or ceremonial? Balance is great and weight surprisingly light but very robust, so I would go for the fighting option. I had an idea on the stud on the back of the blade, in that if you were using it for sacrifise, it would be the perfect possition to strike the victim from; judged from a downward swing from above. Is it therefore a form of sight for a sword!! I'm currently deciding how to totally re-gig the collection to give this pride of place.

17th September 2006, 02:31 PM	#9
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Stud is a stand Just had a strike of insight on the stud which nobody wants to pass opinion on (Not even Rawson, who does mention it). It might be there just to let the sword stand upright on the back of its blade. The photo seems to give it the right appearance/angle for that use. Cheers Andy Attached Images

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14th September 2006, 01:32 AM	#2
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Hey Andy! Take a look here. Look familiar? http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showthread.php?t=3165 Mine is one of my loves also.

14th September 2006, 07:54 AM	#3
Andy Davis Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: England, Northumberland Posts: 85	Hi Bill I see what you mean, very nice and very similar in style but detail is certainly different. I would guess the handle on mine is a Victorian replacement and would have been closer to yours. I only get the name from Rawsons reference and the other writers that copy his deffinitions. In "The Indian Sword" there are photos of two similar, one with this odd stud on the back of the blade but still no reference as to why? Cheers Andy

14th September 2006, 01:27 PM	#4
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Thanks Andy. We don't see these very often and this blade certainly appears to have some age. Too bad the original handle is long gone, but a beautiful example of a Nair sword nonetheless. Congratulations on finding this old gem. Ian.

15th September 2006, 01:53 AM	#5
Bill M Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: USA Georgia Posts: 1,599	Neat! Andy. Congrats on an interesting sword.

15th September 2006, 02:00 AM	#6
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Andy, Very, very nice and very, very interesting sword. Terrific addition to any collection. Congratulations!

16th September 2006, 08:35 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,272	I would agree that this is a fighting piece. This is supported in Elgood's book.

17th September 2006, 02:37 PM	#10
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,361	Andy: That makes a lot of sense. BTW, has anyone ever seen a scabbard for one of these swords? I have not. Maybe they usually sat out on a table or altar, and lying on the spine was there natural storage posture. Ian.