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Old 3rd July 2006, 11:45 PM   #1
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This just arrived. The blade in 9.5" long 18.5 total length. It has some type or floral engraving in the panels. I did a quick etch and it has some type of sham wootz pattern but I can't be sure what kind it is. There is some type of writing on the side bar and upper cross bar?


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Old 3rd July 2006, 11:49 PM   #2
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Armory markings ?
I've seen the second from left before .
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Old 4th July 2006, 08:40 AM   #3
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very nice.
i doubt it is sham watering, but rather tight, chrystalised indian wootz as this was more common to this kind of katar. always could be an acception to the rule though!
i think both inscriptions are upside down.
a good piece!
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Old 4th July 2006, 09:51 PM   #4
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Yes it looks as if the inscriptions are upside down – what about the inscription close to the blade?

Internsting blade BTW.
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Old 4th July 2006, 10:02 PM   #6
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Nice katar Lew!! Could the signes that i have evidenced (sorry Lew to to have edited your pic ) be an indication for an original scissor katar blade rehilted in a simpler version? Just an idea
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No this blade has nothing to do with a scissor blade. These markings which you point out are often seen on katar blades.
Is there any decoration at all on the side guards and the cross guards?
Are there other insctiptions than the ones you have shown?
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No this blade has nothing to do with a scissor blade. These markings which you point out are often seen on katar blades.
Is there any decoration at all on the side guards and the cross guards?
Are there other insctiptions than the ones you have shown?
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Only three inscriptions.

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Old 5th July 2006, 12:19 AM   #9
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No this blade has nothing to do with a scissor blade.


Sorry, was just an idea
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Old 5th July 2006, 09:38 AM   #10
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Hi Flavio, no reason to be sorry. Most of the scissor blades you see are very big and clumsy, but they were also made slim and elegant, although it is seldom to see these blades.

Try also to have a look at this thread
http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...d+inscriptions
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Old 5th July 2006, 04:32 PM   #11
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I believe the inscriptions are museum (or private collection) accession numbers:

CA-3 Y 7 (or an incomplete 9) in the last photo (upside down)
CA-3Y and Y9[something] in the second-to-last photo
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Here is a link to a Bikiner museum with lots of interesting items.

http://www.leyline.org/cgi-bin/photo...egory=armories


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Hi Lew,
Thanks for the link - it is most interesting.
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Thank you Jens
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Old 7th July 2006, 05:10 PM   #15
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Hi Flavio,

Your welcome. For one of the more elegant scissor katars see Stone page 345 no one and two. The third one shown is strange in the way, that the outer katar does not have crossbars; it is only the inner katar, which has cross bars. I have a few double katars but on mine both the outer and the inner katar have gross bars.
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Yeah Jens, the katar scissor on Stone is a very BEAUTY!!!!! Thanks again
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