Parang from Indonesia??

carlos · 15th February 2018, 06:44 PM

This is my last adquisition.
It was bought in an antique market, the seller sold parang and some photos of spanish military in philippines.
I think is indonesian, but is possible this parang was used in philippines too?
Thanks in advance
Carlos

carlos · 15th February 2018, 06:53 PM

Some pictures more ...

David · 15th February 2018, 06:57 PM

From what little i can see of it Carlos it is not really possible to be sure what it is. Can you show some images of the entire piece?

CharlesS · 15th February 2018, 08:43 PM

Looks to be a classic Sumatran 'parang Palembang'...and a nice one! It may go by other names as well. Please see:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...rang+palembang

kai · 15th February 2018, 09:08 PM

Hello Carlos,

This is a pedang variant that is known from the Palembang hinterlands, the Rawas region in the upper Musi river system.

I've seen the names Penai and Pelitei used for this type - both certainly need some more research though!

Regards,
Kai

carlos · 16th February 2018, 07:12 AM

Thank you very much!!!!
Best regards
Carlos

Sajen · 17th February 2018, 08:16 AM

Agree with Charles and Kai. Very rare sword you get there, congrats!

Regards,
Detlef

Spunjer · 18th February 2018, 08:34 PM

wow!
pommel has a strong resemblance with the swords coming out of Panay

kai · 19th February 2018, 01:57 AM

Hello Ron,

Yes, the pommel with long nose (albeit based on a makara's jaw and very stylized) and disk guard (from brass rather than horn) are very reminiscent of an Aklaon sanduko, indeed! The semblance of these "hill tribe" swords must be coming out of thin air...

The really weird thing with this Sumatran sword is that it's blade is almost always coming with a native blade with a "japanesque" tip. Very likely, the tsuba-like crosspiece is also based on this influence (some examples even exhibit a habaki-like collar, too) while the grip/pommel makes this sword distinctly non-Japanese!

Regards,
Kai

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15th February 2018, 06:57 PM	#3
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,250	From what little i can see of it Carlos it is not really possible to be sure what it is. Can you show some images of the entire piece?

15th February 2018, 08:43 PM	#4
CharlesS Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Greenville, NC Posts: 1,854	Looks to be a classic Sumatran 'parang Palembang'...and a nice one! It may go by other names as well. Please see: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...rang+palembang

15th February 2018, 09:08 PM	#5
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Carlos, This is a pedang variant that is known from the Palembang hinterlands, the Rawas region in the upper Musi river system. I've seen the names Penai and Pelitei used for this type - both certainly need some more research though! Regards, Kai

16th February 2018, 07:12 AM	#6
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 755	Thank you very much!!!! Best regards Carlos

17th February 2018, 08:16 AM	#7
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,409	Agree with Charles and Kai. Very rare sword you get there, congrats! Regards, Detlef

18th February 2018, 08:34 PM	#8
Spunjer Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Witness Protection Program Posts: 1,730	wow! pommel has a strong resemblance with the swords coming out of Panay

19th February 2018, 01:57 AM	#9
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Ron, Yes, the pommel with long nose (albeit based on a makara's jaw and very stylized) and disk guard (from brass rather than horn) are very reminiscent of an Aklaon sanduko, indeed! The semblance of these "hill tribe" swords must be coming out of thin air... The really weird thing with this Sumatran sword is that it's blade is almost always coming with a native blade with a "japanesque" tip. Very likely, the tsuba-like crosspiece is also based on this influence (some examples even exhibit a habaki-like collar, too) while the grip/pommel makes this sword distinctly non-Japanese! Regards, Kai