Fan?

kino · 16th June 2015, 05:55 PM

I think it's a fan...
Does anyone know where its origin lies?
I tried looking in the web for similar woven design but wasn't successful, but then it could be pieces of used carpet sewn onto a piece of plaited bamboo.
The silver embellishments could be a clue, if recognizable.
It seems to have been used quite a bit, judging by the wear on the handle.
Any ideas?

Bob A · 4th July 2015, 06:54 PM

I've seen beaded edge trimming on Central Asian bags, sometimes attributed to the Belouch. The silver recalls some Afghan/Turkoman amulet cases, but it is only reminiscent, not identical. The fabric again recalls some Afghan textiles I've seen, but again, there is not, to my eye, a congruence, merely an approximation.

Still, overall impression would put it on the Silk Road between western China and the Caspian. Not very specific, I'm afraid, but better to err on the side of too broad rather than too narrow.

BANDOOK · 5th July 2015, 05:01 AM

HI I WOULD ATTRIBUTE THIS TO TURKMENISTAN OR UZBEKISTAN,CHEERS

kino · 5th July 2015, 06:53 PM

Thanks guys for narrowing down the area.
At least I know which part of Asia it hails from.

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 6th July 2015, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by kino

Thanks guys for narrowing down the area.
At least I know which part of Asia it hails from.

Salaams Kino, look at www.spongobongo.com as what I believe the worlds leading research rugs and textiles up and down the silk road website ever ...and it grows and grows...The author has converted the entire site into a personal encyclopedia of research into all things rug and textile... It is brilliant.
I commend this work to Forum.
In Oman a similar woven but much simpler item is used to waft the embers of a fire into flame ...It's called a Fahm. On the silk road you can still find items similar to yours and where even the stick is similar...I wondered if the stick took its design from the arrow.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

kino · 7th July 2015, 05:34 AM

Thank you ibrahiim.
I will be visiting that site shortly.

Battara · 9th July 2015, 03:22 AM

All I can say is that I can see the Central Asian attribution and that it is beautiful!

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 17th August 2015, 10:43 AM

and....

The Indian/ Moghul artwork depicting Madonna and Child shows a similar fan...Totally by accident I discovered that and the strange square pad in the centre of the project fan and I wondered if this was a throwback to the shield wrist pad. I have seen what appears to be ground pads or miniature mats for teapots and cups similarly decorated but I show this square of textile from the back of a shield for interest.

Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

colin henshaw · 17th August 2015, 11:11 AM

These forms of fans are usually from India, but the design on Kino's example originates from further north in Central Asia...

Ibrahiim al Balooshi · 17th August 2015, 03:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by colin henshaw

These forms of fans are usually from India, but the design on Kino's example originates from further north in Central Asia...

Salaams Colin Henshaw ~I agree with that and I was considering the arrow form to the right of the fan as being possibly Kazak....A lot of the styles have by now fused across boundaries but I think the Moghul style shows some remarkable likeness in construction and I am certain that all the way down the silkroad similar items can be still found...note the almost identical wooden rod on which the fan is set.

For an example of the arrow flight form see http://www.persiancarpetguide.com/sw...ge/Gend998.htm
Regards,
Ibrahiim al Balooshi.

16th June 2015, 05:55 PM	#1
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Fan? I think it's a fan... Does anyone know where its origin lies? I tried looking in the web for similar woven design but wasn't successful, but then it could be pieces of used carpet sewn onto a piece of plaited bamboo. The silver embellishments could be a clue, if recognizable. It seems to have been used quite a bit, judging by the wear on the handle. Any ideas? Attached Images

17th August 2015, 10:43 AM	#8
Ibrahiim al Balooshi Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Buraimi Oman, on the border with the UAE Posts: 4,408	and.... The Indian/ Moghul artwork depicting Madonna and Child shows a similar fan...Totally by accident I discovered that and the strange square pad in the centre of the project fan and I wondered if this was a throwback to the shield wrist pad. I have seen what appears to be ground pads or miniature mats for teapots and cups similarly decorated but I show this square of textile from the back of a shield for interest. Regards, Ibrahiim al Balooshi. Attached Images

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4th July 2015, 06:54 PM	#2
Bob A Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 427	I've seen beaded edge trimming on Central Asian bags, sometimes attributed to the Belouch. The silver recalls some Afghan/Turkoman amulet cases, but it is only reminiscent, not identical. The fabric again recalls some Afghan textiles I've seen, but again, there is not, to my eye, a congruence, merely an approximation. Still, overall impression would put it on the Silk Road between western China and the Caspian. Not very specific, I'm afraid, but better to err on the side of too broad rather than too narrow.

5th July 2015, 05:01 AM	#3
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	HI I WOULD ATTRIBUTE THIS TO TURKMENISTAN OR UZBEKISTAN,CHEERS

5th July 2015, 06:53 PM	#4
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Thanks guys for narrowing down the area. At least I know which part of Asia it hails from.

7th July 2015, 05:34 AM	#6
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,002	Thank you ibrahiim. I will be visiting that site shortly.

9th July 2015, 03:22 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	All I can say is that I can see the Central Asian attribution and that it is beautiful!

17th August 2015, 11:11 AM	#9
colin henshaw Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 1,430	These forms of fans are usually from India, but the design on Kino's example originates from further north in Central Asia...