please id indonesian shield

weapons 27 · 14th March 2015, 12:44 PM

I just bought this kampilan and this shield has a friend .the two come from the collection of a former sailor...
the shield measures 1.26 cm high x 33 cm wide. the kampilan 96cm long

can you identify this shield and give me her age
thank to all

Sajen · 14th March 2015, 01:09 PM

Nice kampy. I doubt that this shield is from Indonesia. The rattan braiding and the handle section remember strong to Bontoc shields but the form of the shield is something I never have seen before. Look for the rattan braiding and handle form for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...eld+philippine

Regards,
Detlef

weapons 27 · 14th March 2015, 02:26 PM

found two shield one can different (ifugao)

Sajen · 14th March 2015, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by weapons 27

found two shield one can different (ifugao)

Yes, your shield can be very well an Ifugao shield, have done also some research in the meanwhile, also when it is not exactly the same shape but very similar.

Regards,
Detlef

VANDOO · 17th March 2015, 07:08 PM

I HAD SEEN SOMETHING LIKE YOUR SHIELD SO I MADE A POST ON PHILIPPINE SHIELDS. WE CAN LOOK FOR CAMPARASONS THERE AND PERHAPS ADD THESE TWO SHIELDS TO THE POST LATER AS WELL AS LINK IT FOR FUTURE REFRENCE. YOUR SHIELD DOES LOOK LIKE A GOOD OLD EXAMPLE THAT HAS SPENT A LOT OF YEARS UNDER A HUT AS IT DOES NOT LOOK ARTEFICIALLY AGED. IT MAY BE A OLDER PLAINER VERSION OF BAGOBO SHIELD OR FROM ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS. SOME OF THE PICTURES SHOW GROUPS FROM THE SAME TRIBES WITH DIFFERENT KINDS OF SHIELDS, AND SOME WITH VERY PLAIN SHIELDS. I SUSPECT THERE WERE MORE PLAIN ONES THAN FANCY ONES IN THE DAYS WHEN THEY WERE IN ACTUAL USE. THE FANCY ONES SELL BETTER SO WE SEE MORE OF THEM MADE IN POST CONTACT TIMES.

Bill M · 18th March 2015, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by VANDOO

I HAD SEEN SOMETHING LIKE YOUR SHIELD SO I MADE A POST ON PHILIPPINE SHIELDS.

Just saw VANDOO post relating to this.

14th March 2015, 12:44 PM	#1
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14th March 2015, 01:09 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,779	Nice kampy. I doubt that this shield is from Indonesia. The rattan braiding and the handle section remember strong to Bontoc shields but the form of the shield is something I never have seen before. Look for the rattan braiding and handle form for example here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...eld+philippine Regards, Detlef

17th March 2015, 07:08 PM	#5
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	I HAD SEEN SOMETHING LIKE YOUR SHIELD SO I MADE A POST ON PHILIPPINE SHIELDS. WE CAN LOOK FOR CAMPARASONS THERE AND PERHAPS ADD THESE TWO SHIELDS TO THE POST LATER AS WELL AS LINK IT FOR FUTURE REFRENCE. YOUR SHIELD DOES LOOK LIKE A GOOD OLD EXAMPLE THAT HAS SPENT A LOT OF YEARS UNDER A HUT AS IT DOES NOT LOOK ARTEFICIALLY AGED. IT MAY BE A OLDER PLAINER VERSION OF BAGOBO SHIELD OR FROM ONE OF THE OTHER GROUPS. SOME OF THE PICTURES SHOW GROUPS FROM THE SAME TRIBES WITH DIFFERENT KINDS OF SHIELDS, AND SOME WITH VERY PLAIN SHIELDS. I SUSPECT THERE WERE MORE PLAIN ONES THAN FANCY ONES IN THE DAYS WHEN THEY WERE IN ACTUAL USE. THE FANCY ONES SELL BETTER SO WE SEE MORE OF THEM MADE IN POST CONTACT TIMES.