Blade stamps for ID.

Atlantia · 7th August 2012, 10:22 PM

Hi all.
Anyone recognise this distinctive shadow face moon stamp?
Probable 17thc double edged straight blade.
Also a cross of traingular stamps and remains of an inscription which is completely gone now.
Blade was modified and remounted in the 18thc, so pictures of the 'whole item' woudln't help with the ID.

Thanks chaps.

Atlantia · 10th August 2012, 11:41 PM

Come on peeps!

Jim McDougall · 11th August 2012, 04:57 AM

If theres anybody out there, turn to Wallace collection p.279 for a clue.

Atlantia · 12th August 2012, 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim McDougall

If theres anybody out there, turn to Wallace collection p.279 for a clue.

LOL, more like if there's anybody out there knock once for yes twice for no.

spiral · 12th August 2012, 01:55 PM

Knock! Knock!

Spiral

fernando · 12th August 2012, 04:52 PM

Knock.

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Jim McDougall · 12th August 2012, 05:18 PM

Yay!!!
Nando I knew you were out there!! My faith is restored, I knew you and at least several others are also prone to actually study and discussing these weapons and topics! Thank you for coming to the rescue

Readers hang in there, there may be other entries that might enhance more on this topic for your learning. I encourage all to think of examples of these crescent moon markings, and to make an entry here with thoughts. Its actually fun to share ideas and observations, and often we actually find solutions to a mystery or two!

The 'clue' here reveals that these kinds of moons were clearly used in Solingen, and that they were apparantly adopted from some of the swordsmiths in Spain (espaderos). Much in keeping with the application of spurious marks and names of known makers by Solingen swordsmiths from there and often other countries, these were used.....but why in groupings of three in Gene's example.

Also note the ANDREA FERARA on the example reference on the page, and notes Solingen use from a blade designated c.1620, citing the use of the name of this mysterious Italian smith...but that of course is entirely another story, and very much the fun of learning from these blades!

7th August 2012, 10:22 PM	#1
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Blade stamps for ID. Hi all. Anyone recognise this distinctive shadow face moon stamp? Probable 17thc double edged straight blade. Also a cross of traingular stamps and remains of an inscription which is completely gone now. Blade was modified and remounted in the 18thc, so pictures of the 'whole item' woudln't help with the ID. Thanks chaps. Attached Images

12th August 2012, 04:52 PM	#6
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Knock. . Attached Images

12th August 2012, 05:18 PM	#7
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,948	Yay!!! Nando I knew you were out there!! My faith is restored, I knew you and at least several others are also prone to actually study and discussing these weapons and topics! Thank you for coming to the rescue Readers hang in there, there may be other entries that might enhance more on this topic for your learning. I encourage all to think of examples of these crescent moon markings, and to make an entry here with thoughts. Its actually fun to share ideas and observations, and often we actually find solutions to a mystery or two! The 'clue' here reveals that these kinds of moons were clearly used in Solingen, and that they were apparantly adopted from some of the swordsmiths in Spain (espaderos). Much in keeping with the application of spurious marks and names of known makers by Solingen swordsmiths from there and often other countries, these were used.....but why in groupings of three in Gene's example. Also note the ANDREA FERARA on the example reference on the page, and notes Solingen use from a blade designated c.1620, citing the use of the name of this mysterious Italian smith...but that of course is entirely another story, and very much the fun of learning from these blades! Last edited by Jim McDougall; 12th August 2012 at 05:34 PM.

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10th August 2012, 11:41 PM	#2
Atlantia Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: The Sharp end Posts: 2,928	Come on peeps!

11th August 2012, 04:57 AM	#3
Jim McDougall Arms Historian Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Route 66 Posts: 9,948	If theres anybody out there, turn to Wallace collection p.279 for a clue.

12th August 2012, 01:55 PM	#5
spiral Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,712	Knock! Knock! Spiral