MIQUELET GUN FOR ID

Cerjak · 28th January 2012, 08:10 PM

Hi everybody

Who can tell me more about this miquelet gun from my collection
Any comment and information about this miquelet gun will be welcome.

Cerjak

SERGIU · 28th January 2012, 10:46 PM

now this is a wonderful preserved shishana tufek(or "tufenk") made for the ottoman market , (according to Robert Elgood made in Boka Kotorska) , a janissary weapon that surely saw action during the 18 th century austro ottoman wars (or elsewhere) The small stock reveals older age- surely 18 th century.As I said about your other rifle, (the percussion jezail, in the oriental forum) we have in our museum in Timisoara a number of oriental and balkan muskets,and the shishana longguns have all kind of barrels.Some bosnian, copies after brescian originals, some oriental like your jazail and other brescian originals. I hope yours to be a Lazarino Cominazzo.

The word shishana indicates a long gun with a hexagonal wooden butt and a heavy barrel, a stock form used by the janissary and the seymeni. In my region of the balkans this musket remained in use by the haidouks till mid-19 th century. Shishanas are also referred as tokmakli sisana-(tokmak-"large piece of wood").Your gun seem made from the wood named "sarma agagdzi"in ottoman turkish, a timber from moldavia -a fine stripped wood.
as i said, my opinion is that you have a great military "cakmakli tufek " the beloved weapon of an unknown janissary of Deli Orman.

Cerjak · 29th January 2012, 10:54 AM

Sergiu
Thank you ,I was not expect so much informations about this gun and realy happy to discover that this militaryTufek was from the 18 th, so much older that what I was thinking.
There is few books in French langage about Otoman gun and not so much people interested in this type of weapon in France so very nice to have your help.
Cerjak

SERGIU · 29th January 2012, 05:26 PM

je pense que ce thread a sa place chez les armes etnographiques et pas ici aux armureries europeenes...peut etre la vous recevrez plus de reponses,plus professionelles que la mienne.
heureux de vous servir
sergiu

Fernando K · 30th January 2012, 02:25 PM

Hola Sergiu

El único "tufenk" que ví en mi vida, en un anticuario, tenía cañon (barrel) rayado (rifled). ¿Es así, o también había de cañon liso?

Afectuosamente. Fernando K

Hi Sergiu

The only "tufenk" i saw in my life, in an antiquarian, had a rifled barrel. Were these always like that, or there were also smooth bore barrels?

Affectionately. Fernando K

rickystl · 30th January 2012, 10:48 PM

Cerjak: That is in great condition. I have a similar one I'm restoring now. But your's is in excellant shape. Very nice gun. Rick.

aspalathos · 9th February 2024, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Cerjak

Hi everybody

Who can tell me more about this miquelet gun from my collection
Any comment and information about this miquelet gun will be welcome.

Cerjak

A very nice rifle. part of the wooden stock is missing

28th January 2012, 08:10 PM	#1
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30th January 2012, 02:25 PM	#5
Fernando K Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 669	Hola Sergiu El único "tufenk" que ví en mi vida, en un anticuario, tenía cañon (barrel) rayado (rifled). ¿Es así, o también había de cañon liso? Afectuosamente. Fernando K Hi Sergiu The only "tufenk" i saw in my life, in an antiquarian, had a rifled barrel. Were these always like that, or there were also smooth bore barrels? Affectionately. Fernando K Last edited by fernando; 31st January 2012 at 12:19 AM.

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28th January 2012, 10:46 PM	#2
SERGIU Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 32	now this is a wonderful preserved shishana tufek(or "tufenk") made for the ottoman market , (according to Robert Elgood made in Boka Kotorska) , a janissary weapon that surely saw action during the 18 th century austro ottoman wars (or elsewhere) The small stock reveals older age- surely 18 th century.As I said about your other rifle, (the percussion jezail, in the oriental forum) we have in our museum in Timisoara a number of oriental and balkan muskets,and the shishana longguns have all kind of barrels.Some bosnian, copies after brescian originals, some oriental like your jazail and other brescian originals. I hope yours to be a Lazarino Cominazzo. The word shishana indicates a long gun with a hexagonal wooden butt and a heavy barrel, a stock form used by the janissary and the seymeni. In my region of the balkans this musket remained in use by the haidouks till mid-19 th century. Shishanas are also referred as tokmakli sisana-(tokmak-"large piece of wood").Your gun seem made from the wood named "sarma agagdzi"in ottoman turkish, a timber from moldavia -a fine stripped wood. as i said, my opinion is that you have a great military "cakmakli tufek " the beloved weapon of an unknown janissary of Deli Orman.

29th January 2012, 10:54 AM	#3
Cerjak Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: FRANCE Posts: 1,065	Sergiu Thank you ,I was not expect so much informations about this gun and realy happy to discover that this militaryTufek was from the 18 th, so much older that what I was thinking. There is few books in French langage about Otoman gun and not so much people interested in this type of weapon in France so very nice to have your help. Cerjak

29th January 2012, 05:26 PM	#4
SERGIU Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Timisoara, Romania Posts: 32	je pense que ce thread a sa place chez les armes etnographiques et pas ici aux armureries europeenes...peut etre la vous recevrez plus de reponses,plus professionelles que la mienne. heureux de vous servir sergiu

30th January 2012, 10:48 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,623	Cerjak: That is in great condition. I have a similar one I'm restoring now. But your's is in excellant shape. Very nice gun. Rick.