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18th July 2005, 07:49 PM | #1 |
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Just got this one this morning. It's a newly made keris, but I think it's a beauty. It has a Yogyakarta dress (gayaman style).
According to my (humble) opinion the dapur is 'Tilam Upih'. I was told it was dapur Jalak Dinding. So this is my first question, who can tell me the difference ? I think these two dapur are very similar. My second question is concerning the pamor. I know this is a difficult item, but nevertheless. Could this be pamor 'Ganggeng Kanyut' or does anyone recognize it as another pamor ? Here are the pics : Total length is 50 cm, length of blade is 36 cm |
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Dapur Tilam Upih does not have a gusen. Therefore, it is not Dapur Tilam Upih. From the features of the keris, it should be Dapur Jalak Ruwuh. It have a pejetan, gusen and ada-ada. Jalak Ruwuh looks similar to Tilam Upih or Brojol except that the blade is thicker in the centre. The pamor does looks like Ganggeng Kanyut. It is said that this pamor pattern can enhance the owner's popularity, easily making friends. Hope that answers your questions. |
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24th July 2005, 06:24 PM | #3 |
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New Keris
Hi Freddy ,
I'm a fan of new keris also . Some of the work coming out of Madura these days is quite good . Also when I purchase a new example I know what I'm buying and it's not "the story" or some contemporary piece artificially mangled to look old . |
24th July 2005, 06:46 PM | #4 |
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Hi Rick,
Nice Pamor Uler Lulut you have there. But the hilt is unique. I haven't seen this type of hilt before. Any idea what type of hilt is it? Last edited by Alam Shah; 24th July 2005 at 06:51 PM. Reason: add question... |
24th July 2005, 06:35 PM | #5 |
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Thanks for your help.
I looked it up in the 'Ensiklopedi Keris' and you're quite right. I thought it was 'Tilam Upih' because it lacked the 'tinggil'. But perhaps you could help with the explanation of 'gusen'. I tried to translate the text concerning this dapur in the above mentioned book , but it's not easy. I (am beginning to) have an understanding of Bahasa Indonesia and can translate some of the written text with the help of my dictionnairies, but everything is not always clear to me. Am I right in stating that the 'gusen' is the narrow border running alongside the edge of the blade ? |
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24th July 2005, 06:50 PM | #7 |
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Nice keris, Rick. Mine also comes from Madura, according to the info I received from the seller.
What's the pamor ? And can we have a close-up of the handle. Looks intresting to me. But I also like the older ones. I don't mind if the blade is not 100 %. That's part of their beauty. Here's a nice example : Dapur Carita Luk sebelas ? |
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It takes a lot of ... to appreciate a piece like that. Well, beauty is in the eyes of the beholder... Last edited by Alam Shah; 25th July 2005 at 01:54 AM. Reason: grammar |
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