Kris identification, luk or not?

erikscollectables · 14th January 2009, 08:58 PM

Who can help me with this kris?

I find it very interesting but do not know why.
Almost sold it once and withdrew it again.
It has been treated quite badly (that is why I wanted to sell it at first..)

It has a ganja iras.
Pamor looks like it might have been raja abela raja?

But the main question is are these luk or not?
Was it a straight kris that has been treated too badly or is this a kris with luk?

Any other ideas about age etc are welcome too of course!

Regards, Erik

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 09:13 PM

Hello Eric, a picture from the complete blade will be helpful, but from what I can see I would call it a 1-luk keris. Pamor maybe ujung gunung or like you think raja abala raja, difficult to say without warangi.
My 2-cent opion.

A. G. Maisey · 14th January 2009, 09:49 PM

We cannot have a one luk keris; lowest count must be three.

You begin the count on the first luk above the gandik and finish the count on the same side of the blade, thus lowest number of luk can only be three.

A full length pic would be of assistance, but from what I can see, this keris looks like dhapur campur bawur --- straight for most of its length, with just three luk close to the point.

Sajen · 14th January 2009, 11:01 PM

I have to be ashamed, Mr. Maisey is correct. I only have to use my head to know that it is not possible to have a one luk blade.

Sorry!

David · 15th January 2009, 12:02 AM

Alan is indeed right, 3 luks it is. Erik, i think you should seek out a source to restain this keris so it's pamor actually reveals itself. You might never sell it then!

karset · 15th January 2009, 03:33 PM

luk 3, can be in damar murub clasification ?,,,

14th January 2009, 08:58 PM	#1
erikscollectables Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 318	Kris identification, luk or not? Who can help me with this kris? I find it very interesting but do not know why. Almost sold it once and withdrew it again. It has been treated quite badly (that is why I wanted to sell it at first..) It has a ganja iras. Pamor looks like it might have been raja abela raja? But the main question is are these luk or not? Was it a straight kris that has been treated too badly or is this a kris with luk? Any other ideas about age etc are welcome too of course! Regards, Erik Attached Images

14th January 2009, 09:13 PM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,734	Hello Eric, a picture from the complete blade will be helpful, but from what I can see I would call it a 1-luk keris. Pamor maybe ujung gunung or like you think raja abala raja, difficult to say without warangi. My 2-cent opion.

14th January 2009, 09:49 PM	#3
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 6,860	We cannot have a one luk keris; lowest count must be three. You begin the count on the first luk above the gandik and finish the count on the same side of the blade, thus lowest number of luk can only be three. A full length pic would be of assistance, but from what I can see, this keris looks like dhapur campur bawur --- straight for most of its length, with just three luk close to the point.

14th January 2009, 11:01 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 8,734	I have to be ashamed, Mr. Maisey is correct. I only have to use my head to know that it is not possible to have a one luk blade. Sorry!

15th January 2009, 12:02 AM	#5
David Keris forum moderator Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Nova Scotia Posts: 7,103	Alan is indeed right, 3 luks it is. Erik, i think you should seek out a source to restain this keris so it's pamor actually reveals itself. You might never sell it then!

15th January 2009, 03:33 PM	#6
karset Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 48	luk 3, can be in damar murub clasification ?,,,