Kindjal for coments

fernando · 19th April 2008, 11:58 PM

A triple fullered 18" (45 cms. ) blade.
Handle looks horn ... at least by night

Wooden scabbard covered by "white brass" on the front and tin on the back.
Kindjal labeled by seller as 18th century and scabbard 19th century.
Anyone familiar with these blade marks ?
Is it easy to tell the origin of this piece ? and the possible veracity of its age ?
Thanks a lot in advance.
Fernando

ariel · 20th April 2008, 12:03 AM

The scabbard ornaments look Balkan to me. The blade... Daghestani trade blade.
Overall, hard to call it Caucasian

fernando · 20th April 2008, 12:07 AM

Thank you Ariel.
18th century for the blade, makes any sense ?

ariel · 20th April 2008, 05:48 AM

Unlikely. There are less than 20 known Kindjal blades in existence dated 18th century ( I have one) . None from the 17th. Check Miller's book "Kaukasiske Wappen".

fernando · 20th April 2008, 06:37 PM

Thank you once more. I will register the data on this piece, concerning blade and scabbard, as per your input. I will consider its age as being XIX century.
Funny thing i can't spot that book in the Net

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Kind regards
Fernando

TVV · 20th April 2008, 08:16 PM

I think Oriental Arms may have a copy of the book.
As for the kindjal, I wish I could help more, but all I can do is agree with Ariel that the Scabbard and hilt look like late 19th century Balkan work.

19th April 2008, 11:58 PM	#1
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Kindjal for coments A triple fullered 18" (45 cms. ) blade. Handle looks horn ... at least by night Wooden scabbard covered by "white brass" on the front and tin on the back. Kindjal labeled by seller as 18th century and scabbard 19th century. Anyone familiar with these blade marks ? Is it easy to tell the origin of this piece ? and the possible veracity of its age ? Thanks a lot in advance. Fernando Attached Images

20th April 2008, 12:03 AM	#2
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	The scabbard ornaments look Balkan to me. The blade... Daghestani trade blade. Overall, hard to call it Caucasian

20th April 2008, 12:07 AM	#3
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you Ariel. 18th century for the blade, makes any sense ?

20th April 2008, 05:48 AM	#4
ariel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,503	Unlikely. There are less than 20 known Kindjal blades in existence dated 18th century ( I have one) . None from the 17th. Check Miller's book "Kaukasiske Wappen".

20th April 2008, 06:37 PM	#5
fernando (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Portugal Posts: 9,694	Thank you once more. I will register the data on this piece, concerning blade and scabbard, as per your input. I will consider its age as being XIX century. Funny thing i can't spot that book in the Net . Kind regards Fernando

20th April 2008, 08:16 PM	#6
TVV Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 1,660	I think Oriental Arms may have a copy of the book. As for the kindjal, I wish I could help more, but all I can do is agree with Ariel that the Scabbard and hilt look like late 19th century Balkan work.