Ideas?

A. G. Maisey · 22nd February 2008, 01:53 AM

Here is some material for good guesses.

A keris hilt that is outside the established patterns.

Anybody care to comment?

Alam Shah · 22nd February 2008, 07:15 AM

It looks like a praying man, reciting a "do'a" (special prayer). My 2 cents opinion.

Marcokeris · 22nd February 2008, 01:39 PM

Is the hole in the bottom round? It seems a hilt of mine with an old woman with arms in the same position (but i am not shure for keris)

Michel · 23rd February 2008, 04:08 PM

An other kris hilt outside of the traditional pattern !
Is that lady praying ? Is it a Christian nun ?
She wears a veil as long as herself but has her face uncovered.
Strange mixture of concepts, but the hilt is fairly well carved.
I have already shown this hilt in the forum but nobody could find where from it came and what it was supposed to represent. I found it in Jogjakarta in 1999 with other untraditional hilts as a swan.
The hole for the peksi is perfectly round and obviously modern (20th century)
I would appreciate your comments
Michel

RobT · 24th February 2008, 03:38 AM

To A. G. Maisey,
Is the figure praying or is he holding something in his hands? Strange, he has no belly button.
Sincerely,
RobT

A. G. Maisey · 24th February 2008, 07:35 AM

Rob, I don't know what he's doing.

He might be praying. He might just be in a pensive pose. He's certainly not holding anything.

The major characteristic of this hilt is that it is craft work, it is not the product of a skilled carver, but something that an unskilled person has made to what I would call "village standard". It is definitely a keris hilt, not a pelecok handle.

What is the band around his head?

I'm not playing games here. I don't know what I'm looking at except that it is a keris hilt. From where, by whom, for what reason, I know not.

I acquired it in Jawa, but that does not necessarily mean it originated there, although that is probable.

As I said:- material for guesses--- but good ones.

22nd February 2008, 01:53 AM	#1
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Ideas? Here is some material for good guesses. A keris hilt that is outside the established patterns. Anybody care to comment? Attached Images

23rd February 2008, 04:08 PM	#4
Michel Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Switzerland Posts: 139	What do you think about this hilt ? An other kris hilt outside of the traditional pattern ! Is that lady praying ? Is it a Christian nun ? She wears a veil as long as herself but has her face uncovered. Strange mixture of concepts, but the hilt is fairly well carved. I have already shown this hilt in the forum but nobody could find where from it came and what it was supposed to represent. I found it in Jogjakarta in 1999 with other untraditional hilts as a swan. The hole for the peksi is perfectly round and obviously modern (20th century) I would appreciate your comments Michel Attached Images

24th February 2008, 03:38 AM	#5
RobT Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 568	To A. G. Maisey, Is the figure praying or is he holding something in his hands? Strange, he has no belly button. Sincerely, RobT Last edited by RobT; 24th February 2008 at 03:40 AM. Reason: new info

22nd February 2008, 07:15 AM	#2
Alam Shah Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Singapore Posts: 1,248	It looks like a praying man, reciting a "do'a" (special prayer). My 2 cents opinion.

22nd February 2008, 01:39 PM	#3
Marcokeris Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Italy Posts: 928	Is the hole in the bottom round? It seems a hilt of mine with an old woman with arms in the same position (but i am not shure for keris)

24th February 2008, 07:35 AM	#6
A. G. Maisey Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 7,085	Rob, I don't know what he's doing. He might be praying. He might just be in a pensive pose. He's certainly not holding anything. The major characteristic of this hilt is that it is craft work, it is not the product of a skilled carver, but something that an unskilled person has made to what I would call "village standard". It is definitely a keris hilt, not a pelecok handle. What is the band around his head? I'm not playing games here. I don't know what I'm looking at except that it is a keris hilt. From where, by whom, for what reason, I know not. I acquired it in Jawa, but that does not necessarily mean it originated there, although that is probable. As I said:- material for guesses--- but good ones.