Bontoc Shield

Naga Basuki · 10th March 2005, 10:58 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

Comments?

Ian · 10th March 2005, 11:21 PM

Bill:

Looks authentic from the pictures but it is hard to tell age, even when you are holding the piece.

I have one that is almost identical that I know is from the early- or mid-20th C. The one that just sold is in better shape and may be older than mine, with a nicer finish to the wood and rattan, but it is VERY hard to judge the age of Igorot woodwork sometimes, especially some of the stuff that has been coming on to the market in recent years.

This one looks old (circa 1900), but it may not be.

mmontoro · 11th March 2005, 12:24 AM

I think it looks correct and authentic, too.

Mick · 11th March 2005, 05:00 AM

I think that these are the same people who sold a very good looking Kalinga piece about a week or so ago. I think the Kalinga piece went for over $800, which is a good price for one of these things. If so, this shield was put on at the same time with I think a $350 opening bid. I guess it didn't sell.

It looks like it is real and has a little age. I actually looks older than the one that I have. I don't knock real items made in the traditional way even if they are relativley new. We can't all afford or even get hold of 18 or 19 century material. There is not that much available. After all this material self destructs unless it is well taken care of.

mmontoro · 11th March 2005, 09:22 AM

Good memory, Mick. Here is a link to the Kalinga piece, which was distictive in style and also in great condition:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7300912396

Ian · 11th March 2005, 12:40 PM

Yes, that Kalinga shield is a very nice example. It has the same "glossy" look as the Bontoc shield. Seems that they have both been treated with a similar coating of wax or polish. Quite an attractive finish, but probably not original.

10th March 2005, 10:58 PM	#1
Naga Basuki Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Big old machine shop/foundry/warehouse in Atlanta GA USA Posts: 51	Bontoc Shield http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT Comments?

10th March 2005, 11:21 PM	#2
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,117	Bill: Looks authentic from the pictures but it is hard to tell age, even when you are holding the piece. I have one that is almost identical that I know is from the early- or mid-20th C. The one that just sold is in better shape and may be older than mine, with a nicer finish to the wood and rattan, but it is VERY hard to judge the age of Igorot woodwork sometimes, especially some of the stuff that has been coming on to the market in recent years. This one looks old (circa 1900), but it may not be.

11th March 2005, 12:24 AM	#3
mmontoro Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	I think it looks correct and authentic, too.

11th March 2005, 05:00 AM	#4
Mick Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Orlando Posts: 104	I think that these are the same people who sold a very good looking Kalinga piece about a week or so ago. I think the Kalinga piece went for over $800, which is a good price for one of these things. If so, this shield was put on at the same time with I think a $350 opening bid. I guess it didn't sell. It looks like it is real and has a little age. I actually looks older than the one that I have. I don't knock real items made in the traditional way even if they are relativley new. We can't all afford or even get hold of 18 or 19 century material. There is not that much available. After all this material self destructs unless it is well taken care of.

11th March 2005, 09:22 AM	#5
mmontoro Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 91	Good memory, Mick. Here is a link to the Kalinga piece, which was distictive in style and also in great condition: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=7300912396

11th March 2005, 12:40 PM	#6
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,117	Yes, that Kalinga shield is a very nice example. It has the same "glossy" look as the Bontoc shield. Seems that they have both been treated with a similar coating of wax or polish. Quite an attractive finish, but probably not original.