Weapon Design Project

son of oaf · 25th August 2006, 06:29 PM

hi

long time reader, first time poster..

I am a student of Filipino martial arts.
I've been lucky enough to train with a few really great people, one of whom makes custom aluminium training blades.
We always endeavor to try and train the techniques we learn with a variety of weapons. My colleague is pretty skilled at crafting the aluminium blades and we have had great success in making and training with a few designs from books and internet resources as well as creations based on live blades.

we have a few custom shields, a kampilan, several varieties of barong and bolo as well as numerous knives, kerambits etc.

we are really interested in expanding our collection, learning more about what's out there and learning more about the origins of the art we train in.
we are keen enthusiasts but our knowledge is pretty limited.

is there anyone out there who might be interested in a little online collaboration?
you guys and gals really know your stuff and i feel we could learn a lot from you.
i could post images of the weapons that are created and let you know about all the successes and failures in our little experiment.
i feel there might be a great opportunity for us to have a bit of fun, try and make some great training tools and learn lots of neat stuff while networking.

i've been really impressed by the open and friendly attitudes on this forum (as i said i've been a viewer of a wee while now) and the collected knowledge on this site must be immense.

anyone up for a jam session?

thanks for your time

son of oaf · 26th August 2006, 10:09 AM

nobody?

Rick · 26th August 2006, 04:59 PM

Patience , this place gets slow on the weekends .

Tim Simmons · 26th August 2006, 05:07 PM

I would very much like to see old examples of the famous fighting sticks.

Battara · 26th August 2006, 08:00 PM

I'd be interested and curious.

Bring them on!

VANDOO · 27th August 2006, 08:32 PM

WELCOME! I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE PRODUCED SO FAR. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHAT SORTS OF WEAPONS YOU FAVOR MOST. I AM SURE YOU CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE MEMBERS ONCE THE BALL GETS ROLLING. BUT ALUMINUM BLADES DOES KIND OF FREAK OUT US PURIST'S

son of oaf · 28th August 2006, 12:01 PM

LOL

i'll get some photos sorted asap.
The aluminium blades give us a chance to train the techniques and try stuff out with something that will at least be the same shape as a traditional weapon (if not the right weight, balance etc).
although elements of what we do is stick based, there are also other aspects that are "from the blade" and this gives us an opportunity to have a play and learn a bit more.

The other interesting thing is that because many of these are custom jobs for individuals there are a lot of strange variations appearing.
preferences in terms of grip, size of blade etc as well as bizarre custom requests have led to a few crazy hybrids.

i know one guy who has even replaced a barong handle with a custom knuckle duster!

i'm sure for some that's practically blasphemy!
but it's interesting to see a continuing evolution y'know? people are still trying stuff and seeing what happens. for me that's pretty exciting.

personally, for me the really cool thing is that we can try drills etc with a variety of weapons. double barong vs. kampilan. staff and shield. whip and dagger. bolo vs. barong etc.

i'd love to get to train with axes, panabas, some different types of shields. and i'm positive there is so much more out there i've probably never even heard of!

if anyone was interested in seeing a training version of a weapon in their collection, i'm sure my buddy would be interested in making some testers (with the help of reference images and sizes).
we could even take some training photos and let you know how we got on.
it could be lots of fun.

in the meantime, i'll take some photos and get back to you.

thanks for your time guys..

all the best

Battara · 28th August 2006, 08:21 PM

The only concern I have about aluminum is that it is lighter than steel. But it does make it easier to wield and thus a little flashier for demos. Since I don't own any aluminum pieces, I had to use 2 of my antique kris for a weapons demo at 2 events. Very sharp! (accidently cut my pants on the first one when I had carpel tunnel syndrome in one hand!

).

25th August 2006, 06:29 PM	#1
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	Weapon Design Project hi long time reader, first time poster.. I am a student of Filipino martial arts. I've been lucky enough to train with a few really great people, one of whom makes custom aluminium training blades. We always endeavor to try and train the techniques we learn with a variety of weapons. My colleague is pretty skilled at crafting the aluminium blades and we have had great success in making and training with a few designs from books and internet resources as well as creations based on live blades. we have a few custom shields, a kampilan, several varieties of barong and bolo as well as numerous knives, kerambits etc. we are really interested in expanding our collection, learning more about what's out there and learning more about the origins of the art we train in. we are keen enthusiasts but our knowledge is pretty limited. is there anyone out there who might be interested in a little online collaboration? you guys and gals really know your stuff and i feel we could learn a lot from you. i could post images of the weapons that are created and let you know about all the successes and failures in our little experiment. i feel there might be a great opportunity for us to have a bit of fun, try and make some great training tools and learn lots of neat stuff while networking. i've been really impressed by the open and friendly attitudes on this forum (as i said i've been a viewer of a wee while now) and the collected knowledge on this site must be immense. anyone up for a jam session? thanks for your time

26th August 2006, 10:09 AM	#2
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	nobody?

26th August 2006, 04:59 PM	#3
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,288	Patience , this place gets slow on the weekends .

26th August 2006, 05:07 PM	#4
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,783	I would very much like to see old examples of the famous fighting sticks.

26th August 2006, 08:00 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,200	I'd be interested and curious. Bring them on!

27th August 2006, 08:32 PM	#6
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	WELCOME! I WOULD ALSO BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT YOU HAVE PRODUCED SO FAR. IT WOULD ALSO GIVE US AN IDEA AS TO WHAT SORTS OF WEAPONS YOU FAVOR MOST. I AM SURE YOU CAN GET SOME IDEAS FROM THE MEMBERS ONCE THE BALL GETS ROLLING. BUT ALUMINUM BLADES DOES KIND OF FREAK OUT US PURIST'S

28th August 2006, 12:01 PM	#7
son of oaf Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Newcastle, UK Posts: 15	LOL i'll get some photos sorted asap. The aluminium blades give us a chance to train the techniques and try stuff out with something that will at least be the same shape as a traditional weapon (if not the right weight, balance etc). although elements of what we do is stick based, there are also other aspects that are "from the blade" and this gives us an opportunity to have a play and learn a bit more. The other interesting thing is that because many of these are custom jobs for individuals there are a lot of strange variations appearing. preferences in terms of grip, size of blade etc as well as bizarre custom requests have led to a few crazy hybrids. i know one guy who has even replaced a barong handle with a custom knuckle duster! i'm sure for some that's practically blasphemy! but it's interesting to see a continuing evolution y'know? people are still trying stuff and seeing what happens. for me that's pretty exciting. personally, for me the really cool thing is that we can try drills etc with a variety of weapons. double barong vs. kampilan. staff and shield. whip and dagger. bolo vs. barong etc. i'd love to get to train with axes, panabas, some different types of shields. and i'm positive there is so much more out there i've probably never even heard of! if anyone was interested in seeing a training version of a weapon in their collection, i'm sure my buddy would be interested in making some testers (with the help of reference images and sizes). we could even take some training photos and let you know how we got on. it could be lots of fun. in the meantime, i'll take some photos and get back to you. thanks for your time guys.. all the best

28th August 2006, 08:21 PM	#8
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,200	The only concern I have about aluminum is that it is lighter than steel. But it does make it easier to wield and thus a little flashier for demos. Since I don't own any aluminum pieces, I had to use 2 of my antique kris for a weapons demo at 2 events. Very sharp! (accidently cut my pants on the first one when I had carpel tunnel syndrome in one hand! ).