My 2 new adquisitions from Philippines

carlos · 14th April 2023, 01:20 PM

Hello
I want to share my new 2 pieces!!!!
They are 2 swords with unusual hilts, I wish you enjoy with pictures, any information is wellcome!!!
Thanks in advance
Carlos

kai · 14th April 2023, 06:02 PM

Wow, those are super nice, Carlos!

I'd tend to place the longer one as Sulu. Quite an unusual blade - it almost looks like a hybrid between a slender barung and a straight kris with asymmetric sabre tip. What's its length and thickness?

Hilt is typical Naga style. The dark inlays are made from wood?

I have an even tougher find to reliably classify the second piece. Congrats on these finds!

Regards,
Kai

kino · 15th April 2023, 12:27 AM

They’re beautiful!! Congrats Carlos.

Rick · 15th April 2023, 02:53 AM

The pommel on the ebony(?)hilt seems reminiscent of the Lasara motif seen on Nias swords.
Lucky you.

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...1&d=1433439036

Ian · 15th April 2023, 03:14 AM

Two very nice swords. The hilts are what stand out. The familiar Naga motif on the longer one and (perhaps) a Lazara form on the other. I agree with Rick that the shorter one is likely from Sumatra, but it's not a familiar blade for Nias. That Naga style has been associated with Sulu swords previously.

Battara · 15th April 2023, 03:42 AM

Wonderful examples!

The second piece with the ebony carving seems to me to have a Visayan look, perhaps like from Panay Island.

Inserts on the barong look like ivory the black parts do look like ebony inserts. I love the naga form on these. When I grow up I may get one too......

kai · 15th April 2023, 07:42 PM

Hello Rick & Ian,

Quote:

The pommel on the ebony(?)hilt seems reminiscent of the Lasara motif seen on Nias swords.

This figural hilt is definitely not from Nias. I do see where you are coming from. However, the carving details and ferrule as well as the blade don't vibe with Nias (nor any related cultures).

Quote:

http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...1&d=1433439036

There is a Nias hilt style that seems even closer to Carlos' example than the most well known Nias sword hilt. Let me see if I can dredge up a pic for posting.

Regards,
Kai

14th April 2023, 01:20 PM	#1
carlos Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 746	My 2 new adquisitions from Philippines Hello I want to share my new 2 pieces!!!! They are 2 swords with unusual hilts, I wish you enjoy with pictures, any information is wellcome!!! Thanks in advance Carlos Attached Images

15th April 2023, 02:53 AM	#4
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,325	The pommel on the ebony(?)hilt seems reminiscent of the Lasara motif seen on Nias swords. Lucky you. http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/attach...1&d=1433439036 Last edited by Rick; 15th April 2023 at 03:14 AM.

14th April 2023, 06:02 PM	#2
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Wow, those are super nice, Carlos! I'd tend to place the longer one as Sulu. Quite an unusual blade - it almost looks like a hybrid between a slender barung and a straight kris with asymmetric sabre tip. What's its length and thickness? Hilt is typical Naga style. The dark inlays are made from wood? I have an even tougher find to reliably classify the second piece. Congrats on these finds! Regards, Kai

15th April 2023, 12:27 AM	#3
kino Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 1,016	They’re beautiful!! Congrats Carlos.

15th April 2023, 03:14 AM	#5
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,333	Two very nice swords. The hilts are what stand out. The familiar Naga motif on the longer one and (perhaps) a Lazara form on the other. I agree with Rick that the shorter one is likely from Sumatra, but it's not a familiar blade for Nias. That Naga style has been associated with Sulu swords previously.

15th April 2023, 03:42 AM	#6
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Wonderful examples! The second piece with the ebony carving seems to me to have a Visayan look, perhaps like from Panay Island. Inserts on the barong look like ivory the black parts do look like ebony inserts. I love the naga form on these. When I grow up I may get one too......