P.N.G. ? Masks

Norman McCormick · 14th August 2019, 07:36 PM

Hi,
Don't know much about these so any help would be great. Affectionately known as Bert and Ernie. Taller slimmer one 40 inches by 15 inches other one 28 inches by 17 inches.
Regards,
Norman.

P.S. I do have some bits of shell encrusted clay that have become detached from the masks that I need to reattach.

Athanase · 8th September 2019, 03:11 PM

I can only say that they are recent Papuan masks for the tourist market.
I'm not able to make the differences between the masks of different ethnic groups but for having seen many I really feel that they were not created for local and traditional use.

Sajen · 8th September 2019, 04:46 PM

Sepik? Itamul? I am not an expert by New Guinea but I know that "real" old masks are extremely expensive. Séverin is correct, there are many masks for the collector market to seen, look only at epray!

Regards,
Detlef

Norman McCormick · 12th September 2019, 06:42 PM

Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies, I guessed they were a decorative item rather than a tribally used artefact.
My Regards,
Norman.

Sajen · 12th September 2019, 07:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Norman McCormick

Thanks for the replies, I guessed they were a decorative item rather than a tribally used artefact.

Hello Norman,
Probably but tribal worked and when picture traditional work nothing wrong with them. Not "tribal" used but "tribal" crafted.

Just search a little bit by Mr. Google and see what you find. I am not informed enough to tell more.

Regards,
Detlef

Norman McCormick · 26th September 2019, 04:23 PM

Hi Detlef,
Thanks for your insight, I have the e-mail address of an Australian collector of P.N.G. items so I will get in touch with him and try to find out a bit more.
My Regards,
Norman.

14th August 2019, 07:36 PM	#1
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,610	P.N.G. ? Masks Hi, Don't know much about these so any help would be great. Affectionately known as Bert and Ernie. Taller slimmer one 40 inches by 15 inches other one 28 inches by 17 inches. Regards, Norman. P.S. I do have some bits of shell encrusted clay that have become detached from the masks that I need to reattach. Attached Images

8th September 2019, 03:11 PM	#2
Athanase Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Paris (France) Posts: 413	I can only say that they are recent Papuan masks for the tourist market. I'm not able to make the differences between the masks of different ethnic groups but for having seen many I really feel that they were not created for local and traditional use.

8th September 2019, 04:46 PM	#3
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,125	Sepik? Itamul? I am not an expert by New Guinea but I know that "real" old masks are extremely expensive. Séverin is correct, there are many masks for the collector market to seen, look only at epray! Regards, Detlef

12th September 2019, 06:42 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,610	Hi Guys, Thanks for the replies, I guessed they were a decorative item rather than a tribally used artefact. My Regards, Norman.

26th September 2019, 04:23 PM	#6
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,610	Hi Detlef, Thanks for your insight, I have the e-mail address of an Australian collector of P.N.G. items so I will get in touch with him and try to find out a bit more. My Regards, Norman.