SOUTH INDIAN PISTOL

BANDOOK · 16th May 2017, 04:07 AM

JUST BOUGHT THIS HOLSTER PISTOL CIRCA MID 1800,SUCH PISTOLS WERE COMMON TO MYSORE REGION OF KARNATAKA FROM WHERE TIPPU SULTAN WAS BASED AND STARTED MANY GUN FACTORYS FOR HIS ARMY,THESE COME UP IN AUCTIONS IN THE U.K ,BUT SELDOM IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD,SO WAS HAPPY TO ACQUIRE ONE FOR MY COLLECTION.THE PISTOL IS QUIET COMPLETE BUT MISSING THE TRIGGER GUARD.
HAVE NOT SEEN MUCH OF THESE GUNS DISCUSSED IN THE FORUM SO WOULD APPRECIATE MORE INFORMATION FOR OUR MEMBERS
KIND REGARDS RAJESH

Kubur · 17th May 2017, 07:19 AM

Hi Rajesh,

Your Indian pistol is really beautifull and massive.
This model is well known and discussed by Elgood.
I think there is one like that in Tirri too.
I would like to have some information about the nice and strange barrel...

Best,
Kubur

BANDOOK · 17th May 2017, 12:28 PM

THANKS KUBUR
MY FRIEND RANJEET OF AAKAL ARMS SAID THAT THESE ARE ALWAYS REFFERED AS SOUTH INDIAN BUT NOT MUCH HAS BEEN RESEARCHED SAYING ABOUT THEM,LETS WAIT WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY
KIND REGARDS
RAJESH

Kubur · 17th May 2017, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

THANKS KUBUR
MY FRIEND RANJEET OF AAKAL ARMS SAID THAT THESE ARE ALWAYS REFFERED AS SOUTH INDIAN BUT NOT MUCH HAS BEEN RESEARCHED SAYING ABOUT THEM,LETS WAIT WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY
KIND REGARDS
RAJESH

I might be wrong but the muzzle looks like some Omani abu fillia barrels.
And Elgood said that they were Persians.
I won't be surprised if someone says that your barrel is Persian...
Again I don't think that the trigger guard is missing, lot of these pistols had no trigger guards.

BANDOOK · 18th May 2017, 11:32 AM

Thanks Kubur you are right ,good observation the barrel looks like a Omani AF ,As I have not seen such examples posted in the forum so would be good to know more about these pistols,regards Rajesh

rickystl · 20th May 2017, 09:06 PM

Hi Bandook.

Now that's an interesting pistol. Here in the States you don't often see PISTOLS with Indian origin. The percussion lock looks like it was copied from the British Enfield pattern, but maybe a bit smaller for pistol size. Same with the percussion bolster. So both those items might also be clues to Indian origin. The barrel with multiple flutes at the muzzle is really neat. Don't believe I've seen another like it.
As Kubur mentions, the gun could very well have been made without a trigger guard. If there is no evidence that a guard was ever installed, then this is liely the case.
Again, a really interesting pistol you don't often see. Congratulations.

Rick

16th May 2017, 04:07 AM	#1
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	SOUTH INDIAN PISTOL JUST BOUGHT THIS HOLSTER PISTOL CIRCA MID 1800,SUCH PISTOLS WERE COMMON TO MYSORE REGION OF KARNATAKA FROM WHERE TIPPU SULTAN WAS BASED AND STARTED MANY GUN FACTORYS FOR HIS ARMY,THESE COME UP IN AUCTIONS IN THE U.K ,BUT SELDOM IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD,SO WAS HAPPY TO ACQUIRE ONE FOR MY COLLECTION.THE PISTOL IS QUIET COMPLETE BUT MISSING THE TRIGGER GUARD. HAVE NOT SEEN MUCH OF THESE GUNS DISCUSSED IN THE FORUM SO WOULD APPRECIATE MORE INFORMATION FOR OUR MEMBERS KIND REGARDS RAJESH Attached Images

17th May 2017, 07:19 AM	#2
Kubur Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 2,145	Hi Rajesh, Your Indian pistol is really beautifull and massive. This model is well known and discussed by Elgood. I think there is one like that in Tirri too. I would like to have some information about the nice and strange barrel... Best, Kubur

17th May 2017, 12:28 PM	#3
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	THANKS KUBUR MY FRIEND RANJEET OF AAKAL ARMS SAID THAT THESE ARE ALWAYS REFFERED AS SOUTH INDIAN BUT NOT MUCH HAS BEEN RESEARCHED SAYING ABOUT THEM,LETS WAIT WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY KIND REGARDS RAJESH

18th May 2017, 11:32 AM	#5
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 624	Thanks Kubur you are right ,good observation the barrel looks like a Omani AF ,As I have not seen such examples posted in the forum so would be good to know more about these pistols,regards Rajesh

20th May 2017, 09:06 PM	#6
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,629	Hi Bandook. Now that's an interesting pistol. Here in the States you don't often see PISTOLS with Indian origin. The percussion lock looks like it was copied from the British Enfield pattern, but maybe a bit smaller for pistol size. Same with the percussion bolster. So both those items might also be clues to Indian origin. The barrel with multiple flutes at the muzzle is really neat. Don't believe I've seen another like it. As Kubur mentions, the gun could very well have been made without a trigger guard. If there is no evidence that a guard was ever installed, then this is liely the case. Again, a really interesting pistol you don't often see. Congratulations. Rick