Interesting Sundang

drac2k · 28th February 2017, 08:41 PM

I just acquired this sundang which I believe to be from 1900 to 1945, probably closer to 1900 ; what I found interesting was that the aring(forgive me if I have mislabeled this part), was filled with a metal that looks like silver.I have seen the blades of other weapons with metal inserts, but this is the first time in my limited experience that I have seen the guard of a sundang filled.
Any comments would be appreciated.

Battara · 1st March 2017, 12:08 AM

Nice example. Congratulations!

This is a Maguindanao kris that I would place a little after 1900. You may want to etch the blade to see if it is mono-steel or laminated.

The copper top on the hilt may have been once covered by a thin sheet of gold to match the ferrule.

Ian · 1st March 2017, 12:22 AM

drac2K:

Nice Maguindanao kris. Like Battara, I would place this one later in the 20th C. for several reasons: the sharply pointed, spear tip to the blade; the absence of a separate gangya (an inscribed line has replaced where it would normally be separated); and the general appearance of the sword which looks in mint condition with very crisp incised decorations and pristine hilt. My guess would be closer to mid-20th C., although the scabbard may be a little older.

Ian

Battara · 1st March 2017, 12:29 AM

Ian do you think this ganga is not separate? I thought it was. If not, then I would agree that it is mid-20c.

drac2k · 1st March 2017, 01:02 AM

Thanks Gentlemen.I am pretty sure that the gangya is separate(maybe wishful thinking).I'll try to get better pictures.I agree that there once was a cap on the end of the pommel.

Sajen · 1st March 2017, 01:16 AM

Would agree with Jose, turn of the centuries, early 20th century. I agree again, the gangya is seperate. Nice piece!

Sadly you don't etch.

Regards,
Detlef

28th February 2017, 08:41 PM	#1
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,250	Interesting Sundang I just acquired this sundang which I believe to be from 1900 to 1945, probably closer to 1900 ; what I found interesting was that the aring(forgive me if I have mislabeled this part), was filled with a metal that looks like silver.I have seen the blades of other weapons with metal inserts, but this is the first time in my limited experience that I have seen the guard of a sundang filled. Any comments would be appreciated. Attached Images

1st March 2017, 12:08 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Nice example. Congratulations! This is a Maguindanao kris that I would place a little after 1900. You may want to etch the blade to see if it is mono-steel or laminated. The copper top on the hilt may have been once covered by a thin sheet of gold to match the ferrule.

1st March 2017, 12:22 AM	#3
Ian Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: The Aussie Bush Posts: 4,336	drac2K: Nice Maguindanao kris. Like Battara, I would place this one later in the 20th C. for several reasons: the sharply pointed, spear tip to the blade; the absence of a separate gangya (an inscribed line has replaced where it would normally be separated); and the general appearance of the sword which looks in mint condition with very crisp incised decorations and pristine hilt. My guess would be closer to mid-20th C., although the scabbard may be a little older. Ian

1st March 2017, 12:29 AM	#4
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,257	Ian do you think this ganga is not separate? I thought it was. If not, then I would agree that it is mid-20c.

1st March 2017, 01:02 AM	#5
drac2k Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Posts: 1,250	Thanks Gentlemen.I am pretty sure that the gangya is separate(maybe wishful thinking).I'll try to get better pictures.I agree that there once was a cap on the end of the pommel.

1st March 2017, 01:16 AM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,126	Would agree with Jose, turn of the centuries, early 20th century. I agree again, the gangya is seperate. Nice piece! Sadly you don't etch. Regards, Detlef