origin please

galvano · 1st April 2006, 07:13 PM

hi . what is the origin of this object
many thanks . galvano

ham · 1st April 2006, 07:24 PM

Galvano,

This is a Turkish buckler or fist shield, they were used specifically for fighting with sabers and can still be found in Anatolia where they are used for a local dance called Kilic ve Kalkan. The style itself is ancient, it has been in use for 3 millenia in Asia. It has been argued that these particular shields date to the 17th century, however I have examined a number of examples which were actually dated between 1850-1900.

Nice example in good condition, congratulations.

Ham

Battara · 1st April 2006, 10:33 PM

These were big with the Janisarries of the Ottoman armies (along with their yataghans). Very nice example and one that is on my want list.

Valjhun · 2nd April 2006, 03:53 PM

Goregeus! Also on my waiting list. Like Ham Sensei undirectly mentioned it is called Kalkan, and it is a counterpart of the more famous indopersian Dhal/Separ. Usually kalkans are smaller in diameter than dhal and they're quite rare.

What is the diameter of your piece?

galvano · 2nd April 2006, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valjhun

Goregeus! Also on my waiting list. Like Ham Sensei undirectly mentioned it is called Kalkan, and it is a counterpart of the more famous indopersian Dhal/Separ. Usually kalkans are smaller in diameter than dhal and they're quite rare.

What is the diameter of your piece?

diameter is 26 cms

1st April 2006, 07:13 PM	#1
galvano Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 178	origin please hi . what is the origin of this object many thanks . galvano Attached Images

1st April 2006, 07:24 PM	#2
ham Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 190	Galvano, This is a Turkish buckler or fist shield, they were used specifically for fighting with sabers and can still be found in Anatolia where they are used for a local dance called Kilic ve Kalkan. The style itself is ancient, it has been in use for 3 millenia in Asia. It has been argued that these particular shields date to the 17th century, however I have examined a number of examples which were actually dated between 1850-1900. Nice example in good condition, congratulations. Ham

1st April 2006, 10:33 PM	#3
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,221	These were big with the Janisarries of the Ottoman armies (along with their yataghans). Very nice example and one that is on my want list.

2nd April 2006, 03:53 PM	#4
Valjhun Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 692	Goregeus! Also on my waiting list. Like Ham Sensei undirectly mentioned it is called Kalkan, and it is a counterpart of the more famous indopersian Dhal/Separ. Usually kalkans are smaller in diameter than dhal and they're quite rare. What is the diameter of your piece?