New Plains club

Tim Simmons · 9th November 2015, 04:06 PM

The picture is not that good so will have to wait with fingers crossed until it arrives. Not the length I really want and the club head not as pointed either, but for the the money I could be well pleased, I hope. Saying that the handle is possibly really very nice and unusual. I am adding images of two similar sized (40 cm and 39 cm) pieces from the American Museum of Natural History,

http://anthro.amnh.org/north

The less pointed example is described as ; San Ildefonso, Southwest Plains, acquisition 1910 expedition.

The other Plains gift 1949.

Clearly my new club is the example of poor photography.

VANDOO · 9th November 2015, 05:22 PM

THE WORKMANSHIP IS VERY GOOD AND APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PROPER WAY. THE BRAIDED RAWHIDE HANDLE IS ESPECIALLY NICE. I HOPE IT IS LONGER THAN IT APPEARS IN THE PHOTO AS THAT WOULD BE ITS ONLY SHORT COMING (PUN INTENDED)

THE STONE LOOKS OK TOO. IT IS RARE BUT STILL POSSIBLE TO FIND A SLEEPER IN NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS AS MANY COLLECTORS FEAR TO TREAD BUT A VERY WELL NATIVE AMERICAN MADE ITEM IS WORTH COLLECTING AS WELL. GOOD LUCK I HOPE YOU GOT A SLEEPER BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD WARCLUB OLD OR NEW.

Tim Simmons · 12th November 2015, 04:02 PM

While I wait for arrival. Here are some old pictures that show also with the natural history museum these clubs come in all shapes and sizes plain and decorated.

stekemest · 12th November 2015, 09:02 PM

Nice club...

Here's a picture of my own. Most of these seem to date around 1900. I haven't seen many authentic examples from pre-reservation times.

Tim Simmons · 13th November 2015, 05:07 PM

Thanks for the picture. I have this one and I now realise that the stone is Catlinite rather than brown shale or limestone.

Tim Simmons · 14th November 2015, 05:28 PM

Since found that Catlinite and Brown shale are much the same thing.

9th November 2015, 04:06 PM	#1
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,824	New Plains club The picture is not that good so will have to wait with fingers crossed until it arrives. Not the length I really want and the club head not as pointed either, but for the the money I could be well pleased, I hope. Saying that the handle is possibly really very nice and unusual. I am adding images of two similar sized (40 cm and 39 cm) pieces from the American Museum of Natural History, http://anthro.amnh.org/north The less pointed example is described as ; San Ildefonso, Southwest Plains, acquisition 1910 expedition. The other Plains gift 1949. Clearly my new club is the example of poor photography. Attached Images

12th November 2015, 04:02 PM	#3
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,824	While I wait for arrival. Here are some old pictures that show also with the natural history museum these clubs come in all shapes and sizes plain and decorated. Attached Images

12th November 2015, 09:02 PM	#4
stekemest Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Heidelberg, Germany Posts: 182	Nice club... Here's a picture of my own. Most of these seem to date around 1900. I haven't seen many authentic examples from pre-reservation times. Attached Images

13th November 2015, 05:07 PM	#5
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,824	Thanks for the picture. I have this one and I now realise that the stone is Catlinite rather than brown shale or limestone. Attached Images

9th November 2015, 05:22 PM	#2
VANDOO (deceased) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: OKLAHOMA, USA Posts: 3,138	THE WORKMANSHIP IS VERY GOOD AND APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PROPER WAY. THE BRAIDED RAWHIDE HANDLE IS ESPECIALLY NICE. I HOPE IT IS LONGER THAN IT APPEARS IN THE PHOTO AS THAT WOULD BE ITS ONLY SHORT COMING (PUN INTENDED) THE STONE LOOKS OK TOO. IT IS RARE BUT STILL POSSIBLE TO FIND A SLEEPER IN NATIVE AMERICAN ITEMS AS MANY COLLECTORS FEAR TO TREAD BUT A VERY WELL NATIVE AMERICAN MADE ITEM IS WORTH COLLECTING AS WELL. GOOD LUCK I HOPE YOU GOT A SLEEPER BUT IT LOOKS LIKE A GOOD WARCLUB OLD OR NEW.

14th November 2015, 05:28 PM	#6
Tim Simmons Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: What is still UK Posts: 5,824	Since found that Catlinite and Brown shale are much the same thing.