SHORT ALGERIAN KABYLE

kahnjar1 · 20th July 2015, 02:59 AM

I recently picked this up for next to nothing in a local auction. Overall length 38" with a 23" smoothbore barrel.
I suspect that the barrel is of European origin.....does anyone recognise the marks?
Also can anyone please translate the "script" on the barrel......it may just be decorative squiggle, but then it may not.
Comments welcome.
Stu

BANDOOK · 20th July 2015, 10:01 AM

HI STU SAW THIS COUPLE OF WEEKENDS BACK AT WELLINGTON,WERE YOU THERE FOR THE GUN AUCTION?
ITS TRANSLATES TO NOSTRAT ALLAH [A PERSONS NAME]
CANNOT SEE THE OTHER SIDE IF YOU SHOW ANOTHER PICTURE I CAN TELL YOU WHATS IS WRITTEN
REGARDS RAJESH

rickystl · 20th July 2015, 01:17 PM

Hi Stu
An interesting Algerian Kabyle gun. It has the less encountered French style Flintlock vs the more common Toe-Lock Miquelet. In this case it is likely both the lock and barrel were both European made, and decorated locally.
Originally a long gun, this one has been shortened (some call it sportorized) in a common manner done to European military muskets during the period. Which makes me think that this gun may have been owned/used by a European during it's latter life. Only one I've seen shortened in this manner. Interesting. And still retaining it's rear sling ring. Neat gun.
Rick.

kahnjar1 · 20th July 2015, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BANDOOK

HI STU SAW THIS COUPLE OF WEEKENDS BACK AT WELLINGTON,WERE YOU THERE FOR THE GUN AUCTION?
ITS TRANSLATES TO NOSTRAT ALLAH [A PERSONS NAME]
CANNOT SEE THE OTHER SIDE IF YOU SHOW ANOTHER PICTURE I CAN TELL YOU WHATS IS WRITTEN
REGARDS RAJESH

Hi Rajesh,
Correct.... it came from Wellington.....postal bid. Thanks for the translation. The script on the other side is too faint to be clearly seen so have not posted a pic. Will try to enhance it but don't have much hope.
Stu

20th July 2015, 02:59 AM	#1
kahnjar1 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND Posts: 2,811	SHORT ALGERIAN KABYLE I recently picked this up for next to nothing in a local auction. Overall length 38" with a 23" smoothbore barrel. I suspect that the barrel is of European origin.....does anyone recognise the marks? Also can anyone please translate the "script" on the barrel......it may just be decorative squiggle, but then it may not. Comments welcome. Stu Attached Images

20th July 2015, 10:01 AM	#2
BANDOOK Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: AUCKLAND,NEW ZEALAND Posts: 627	HI STU SAW THIS COUPLE OF WEEKENDS BACK AT WELLINGTON,WERE YOU THERE FOR THE GUN AUCTION? ITS TRANSLATES TO NOSTRAT ALLAH [A PERSONS NAME] CANNOT SEE THE OTHER SIDE IF YOU SHOW ANOTHER PICTURE I CAN TELL YOU WHATS IS WRITTEN REGARDS RAJESH

20th July 2015, 01:17 PM	#3
rickystl Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: St. Louis, MO area. Posts: 1,633	Hi Stu An interesting Algerian Kabyle gun. It has the less encountered French style Flintlock vs the more common Toe-Lock Miquelet. In this case it is likely both the lock and barrel were both European made, and decorated locally. Originally a long gun, this one has been shortened (some call it sportorized) in a common manner done to European military muskets during the period. Which makes me think that this gun may have been owned/used by a European during it's latter life. Only one I've seen shortened in this manner. Interesting. And still retaining it's rear sling ring. Neat gun. Rick.