Another Philippine What's It

Robert · 17th September 2014, 04:02 AM

Seeing that there have been some very interesting Philippine pieces posted to the forum tonight I thought I would add this strange little piece into the mix. The scabbard seems Visayan to me, but the blade does not look to have the chisel edge that I would expect to see. The horn covering looks to be in nice condition but the brass banding that would normally cover the seams are missing. All together a nice but very odd little knife. Any and all information that is offered on this will be greatly appreciated.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 17th September 2014, 06:57 AM

What a beautiful Visayan knife Robert! I am green with envy! The pommel and ferrule seems to my eyes also Visayan so I think that the complete knife is in all parts original. It would be easy to make two new small brass rings between the two horn plates. Never before I have seen such a Visayan knife.
When you plan to make this two rings please post pictures when you have finished the work.

Best regards,
Detlef

Robert · 17th September 2014, 07:10 AM

Thank you Detlef. The bands will be replaced as soon as it arrives. What was throwing me off was the blade itself not seeming to have a chisel edge and that I have never seen a hilt with the wood carved in this style either. It almost has a gunong look to it. I am hoping that it will arrive by Saturday and I will have it repaired and cleaned in a day or two. I will post new photos of it then.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 17th September 2014, 07:51 AM

Hello Robert,

isn't the pommel not from black horn? I nearly would bet it is!

Not all Visayan knives has a chisel edge, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=visayan
You have got a real gem with this knife!

Regards,
Detlef

Robert · 17th September 2014, 07:06 PM

Hello Detlef, I'm not quite sure if the hilt is made from horn, black palm or possibly ironwood. I know that the blade not having a chisel ground blade is not completely unheard of as I have a Plamingko that does not have a chisel ground blade, it just seems unusual for one with this blade shape.

Here are the best photos that I can get from the original one for a close-up of the hilt as well as one of the Plamingko.

Best,
Robert

Sajen · 17th September 2014, 07:59 PM

You could be correct, let's wait until you have it in hand!

Regards,
Detlef

17th September 2014, 04:02 AM	#1
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Another Philippine What's It Seeing that there have been some very interesting Philippine pieces posted to the forum tonight I thought I would add this strange little piece into the mix. The scabbard seems Visayan to me, but the blade does not look to have the chisel edge that I would expect to see. The horn covering looks to be in nice condition but the brass banding that would normally cover the seams are missing. All together a nice but very odd little knife. Any and all information that is offered on this will be greatly appreciated. Best, Robert Attached Images

17th September 2014, 07:06 PM	#5
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Hello Detlef, I'm not quite sure if the hilt is made from horn, black palm or possibly ironwood. I know that the blade not having a chisel ground blade is not completely unheard of as I have a Plamingko that does not have a chisel ground blade, it just seems unusual for one with this blade shape. Here are the best photos that I can get from the original one for a close-up of the hilt as well as one of the Plamingko. Best, Robert Attached Images

17th September 2014, 06:57 AM	#2
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,144	What a beautiful Visayan knife Robert! I am green with envy! The pommel and ferrule seems to my eyes also Visayan so I think that the complete knife is in all parts original. It would be easy to make two new small brass rings between the two horn plates. Never before I have seen such a Visayan knife. When you plan to make this two rings please post pictures when you have finished the work. Best regards, Detlef

17th September 2014, 07:10 AM	#3
Robert EAAF Staff Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Centerville, Kansas Posts: 2,196	Thank you Detlef. The bands will be replaced as soon as it arrives. What was throwing me off was the blade itself not seeming to have a chisel edge and that I have never seen a hilt with the wood carved in this style either. It almost has a gunong look to it. I am hoping that it will arrive by Saturday and I will have it repaired and cleaned in a day or two. I will post new photos of it then. Best, Robert

17th September 2014, 07:51 AM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,144	Hello Robert, isn't the pommel not from black horn? I nearly would bet it is! Not all Visayan knives has a chisel edge, look here: http://www.vikingsword.com/vb/showth...hlight=visayan You have got a real gem with this knife! Regards, Detlef

17th September 2014, 07:59 PM	#6
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,144	You could be correct, let's wait until you have it in hand! Regards, Detlef