Maranao kris?

Sajen · 21st October 2012, 11:47 PM

Just win this kris by epray, the scabbard need some restore but I think that this can be fixed. The engravings are inlayed with brass like the seller stated. I think that it is a Maranao fighting kris from around 1900.

All comments are very welcome.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 22nd October 2012, 04:58 AM

It is hard to distinguish between Maranao and Maguindanao. I would lean toward Maguindanao due to the way the "elephant" profile is made.

kai · 22nd October 2012, 08:52 AM

Hello Detlef,

I also believe this blade is Maguindanao (also the hilt suits fine). Actually, I see no hints that speak for Maranao?

Does the kris really have a seperate gangya? Considering the scroll work, I'd lean towards a somewhat later date.

BTW, etched silver can look pretty much like brass. IMHO this is likely brass though; checking with a gentle polish wouldn't hurt, I guess.

Regards,
Kai

Sajen · 22nd October 2012, 04:20 PM

Hello Kai,

thank's for comment. Until now I haven't it in my hands so I can't say for sure if it has a seperate gangya. But have a look to the last but one picture; I think it's seperate. When the "brass" is silver would be nice, we will know for sure when I have received it.
Thank you for confirming the statement from Jose that it is a Maguindanao blade and your dating.

Regards,

Detlef

Battara · 22nd October 2012, 11:59 PM

Actually I think I do see a separate ganga and not one of those later engraved ones.

Kai I was thinking the same thing - the "brass" could in fact be tarnished silver, which would be easier to inlay than brass (I have inlaid both).

Rick · 23rd October 2012, 12:18 AM

There is something quite 20th century about the detail work; kembang kacang etc .

I think this is early post WWII .

Battara · 23rd October 2012, 02:44 AM

I have seen early post WWII and the workmanship on this is superior to that date. I would guess at early 20c.

I would change my mind if the ganga is not separate.

21st October 2012, 11:47 PM	#1
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,416	Maranao kris? Just win this kris by epray, the scabbard need some restore but I think that this can be fixed. The engravings are inlayed with brass like the seller stated. I think that it is a Maranao fighting kris from around 1900. All comments are very welcome. Regards, Detlef Attached Images

22nd October 2012, 04:58 AM	#2
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	It is hard to distinguish between Maranao and Maguindanao. I would lean toward Maguindanao due to the way the "elephant" profile is made.

22nd October 2012, 08:52 AM	#3
kai Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,255	Hello Detlef, I also believe this blade is Maguindanao (also the hilt suits fine). Actually, I see no hints that speak for Maranao? Does the kris really have a seperate gangya? Considering the scroll work, I'd lean towards a somewhat later date. BTW, etched silver can look pretty much like brass. IMHO this is likely brass though; checking with a gentle polish wouldn't hurt, I guess. Regards, Kai

22nd October 2012, 04:20 PM	#4
Sajen Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Germany, Dortmund Posts: 9,416	Hello Kai, thank's for comment. Until now I haven't it in my hands so I can't say for sure if it has a seperate gangya. But have a look to the last but one picture; I think it's seperate. When the "brass" is silver would be nice, we will know for sure when I have received it. Thank you for confirming the statement from Jose that it is a Maguindanao blade and your dating. Regards, Detlef

22nd October 2012, 11:59 PM	#5
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	Actually I think I do see a separate ganga and not one of those later engraved ones. Kai I was thinking the same thing - the "brass" could in fact be tarnished silver, which would be easier to inlay than brass (I have inlaid both).

23rd October 2012, 12:18 AM	#6
Rick Vikingsword Staff Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,376	There is something quite 20th century about the detail work; kembang kacang etc . I think this is early post WWII .

23rd October 2012, 02:44 AM	#7
Battara EAAF Staff Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 7,345	I have seen early post WWII and the workmanship on this is superior to that date. I would guess at early 20c. I would change my mind if the ganga is not separate.