Keris with swirls in pamor for comment.

[Atlantia]

Buoyed by the results of the first keris I have brought to show and tell for quite some time, I've decided to show you some more.

So here's the next Keris for ID and comments please. The description said middle Java C.1880, but I've found that some of these seem right while others are wrong so I'll leave it to you guys to tell me:

[Rick]

Boy, did you step in it mate .
Another quite interesting piece .

I think we might call that pamor puser .

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Rick

Boy, did you step in it mate .
Another quite interesting piece .

I think we might call that pamor puser .

Thanks Rick,
Pamor puser; Centre of the world?

Best
Gene

P.S. You can't see it in the pics I meant to show both sides. That swirl is right through the blade!

[Sajen]

Very nice keris Gene! This one I would like to see indeed with a proper Stain!

Regards,

Detlef

[David]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Very nice keris Gene! This one I would like to see indeed with a proper Stain!

Yes, please...

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by David

Yes, please...

lol, I'm glad you like it. Any information greatfully recieved

Best
Gene

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Sajen

Very nice keris Gene! This one I would like to see indeed with a proper Stain!

Regards,

Detlef

Hi Detlef,

I took a BIG chance on this one, it was comparatively very expensive and I nearly left it.
I swapped a nice sword for it, so I hope it's both old and unusual!
I want to learn and I find that hard lessons tend to stick in my mind the best

Best
Gene

[Rick]

Originally Posted by Atlantia

That swirl is right through the blade!

Maybe not, Gene .
I think I see evidence of a slorok present .
That pamor may have been applied to each side .

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by Rick

Maybe not, Gene .
I think I see evidence of a slorok present .
That pamor may have been applied to each side .

...goes off to look up 'slorok'........

[Rick]

'Core', mate .

[tunggulametung]

The hilt is Surakarta/Central Java while the sheath is Yogyakarta. The blade, I'm not smart with that one At the first sight it is quite interesting, but looking at how the ricikan (details) were done Nice wood grain on the sheath. Pendok (metal oversheath) is lower end, sorry.

[A. G. Maisey]

"Puser" has a few meanings:- navel, center, middle point, swirl; not not necessarily center of the earth.

Rick, it could go all the way through the blade. There are several ways to put the core into a blade, and two of those ways do not have the core running all the way through the blade, but only along its edges. Even if the core did go all the way through, it would still be possible to put a hole through the middle of the blade, and insert a rolled up piece of pamor before you welded the core in.

In keris terminology one of the meanings of "slorok" is the core of the blade, but it is also the separate front part of some types of pendok, or the thin contrasting backing foil for the front panel of other kinds of pendok. Some people even call the singap a slorok. Essentially a slorok is something that slides, so it can be a sliding panel, or a drawer --- like we keep socks in --- or any kind of sliding cover. A singap is the cloth bag we store keris in.

[Atlantia]

Originally Posted by A. G. Maisey

"Puser" has a few meanings:- navel, center, middle point, swirl; not not necessarily center of the earth.

Rick, it could go all the way through the blade. There are several ways to put the core into a blade, and two of those ways do not have the core running all the way through the blade, but only along its edges. Even if the core did go all the way through, it would still be possible to put a hole through the middle of the blade, and insert a rolled up piece of pamor before you welded the core in.

Ah, that was just the first reference I found on google. I'm very much still learning