British naval sword m1827

Alexander · 3rd February 2012, 06:45 PM

Dear friends. I want to ask to help at you to me.
1. I can not read a name of the manufacturer (... EVES)?
2. As I don't know a name of the manufacturer (star)?
You could write me a name of the manufacturer of a sword and exact date of manufacturing.
Respect, Alexander.

broadaxe · 4th February 2012, 06:30 PM

I hate to say and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a replica: too clean, small details are blurry and of low quality

fernando · 4th February 2012, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by broadaxe

I hate to say and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a replica: too clean, small details are blurry and of low quality

And you are probably right; too bad

Norman McCormick · 4th February 2012, 07:51 PM

Hi Alexander,
The letters are for Gieves who were outfitters and not makers and IF the sword is correct probably supplied after 1916. British military swords came in different degrees of quality and in times of war when there would have been a great demand for swords quality may have sufffered. There should be a cartouche on the blade for the monarch in this case probably GRV but maybe GRVI or ERII as Gieves were in business into the 1960's, please have a look at the blade and see if any of these are on it. There is always the possibility of the guard having been damaged and subsequently re-gilded giving the impression of substandard casting. The sword may be a repro but I can't remember seeing one with Gieves and/or an S proof mark but there is always a first time! Hope this is of some help.
Regards,
Norman.

Evgeny_K · 6th February 2012, 07:37 AM

This is M1846 naval sword, not M1827.
I don't think that it could be a reproduction.

asomotif · 6th February 2012, 11:54 AM

I am with Norman and Evgeny.

Not a repro, but just an affordable alternative as officers had to buy their own sword.

The royal Cypher on the blade would be nice to see in order date the sword.
Also a picture of the handle and of the scabbard mountings would give some more insight in the overall quality of this sword.

Best regards,
Willem

3rd February 2012, 06:45 PM	#1
Alexander Member Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Russia, Moscow. Posts: 48	British naval sword m1827 Dear friends. I want to ask to help at you to me. 1. I can not read a name of the manufacturer (... EVES)? 2. As I don't know a name of the manufacturer (star)? You could write me a name of the manufacturer of a sword and exact date of manufacturing. Respect, Alexander. Attached Images

4th February 2012, 06:30 PM	#2
broadaxe Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 334	I hate to say and I hope I'm wrong, but it looks like a replica: too clean, small details are blurry and of low quality

4th February 2012, 07:51 PM	#4
Norman McCormick Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,610	Hi Alexander, The letters are for Gieves who were outfitters and not makers and IF the sword is correct probably supplied after 1916. British military swords came in different degrees of quality and in times of war when there would have been a great demand for swords quality may have sufffered. There should be a cartouche on the blade for the monarch in this case probably GRV but maybe GRVI or ERII as Gieves were in business into the 1960's, please have a look at the blade and see if any of these are on it. There is always the possibility of the guard having been damaged and subsequently re-gilded giving the impression of substandard casting. The sword may be a repro but I can't remember seeing one with Gieves and/or an S proof mark but there is always a first time! Hope this is of some help. Regards, Norman.

6th February 2012, 07:37 AM	#5
Evgeny_K Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 213	This is M1846 naval sword, not M1827. I don't think that it could be a reproduction.

6th February 2012, 11:54 AM	#6
asomotif Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,228	I am with Norman and Evgeny. Not a repro, but just an affordable alternative as officers had to buy their own sword. The royal Cypher on the blade would be nice to see in order date the sword. Also a picture of the handle and of the scabbard mountings would give some more insight in the overall quality of this sword. Best regards, Willem